Follow The Money | September 1, 2026 | Hour 2

**SPEAKER_1** (0:02)
Follow The Money, that's what I always say, you always follow the money. This is Follow The Money with Mitch Moss and Pauly Howard on VSiN.

**Mitch Moss** (0:11)
It's good to have you on board. Thanks for watching as always on YouTube TV, listening on SiriusXM channel 189 Starting today, that's the new channel, iHeartRadio, TuneIn Radio, or any of our great affiliates across the country. So Pauly and I have been playing in this head to head weekly match up on an app website called The Sharps. And I think I've been crushing him the last couple of weeks overall. Got to check the update of standings. I'm just joking there.
The man who created this really cool app joins us in studio now. His name is Robert McCall. It's good to see you. You came up with something extremely fancy and a lot of fun. How are you today?

**Robert McCall** (0:48)
I'm good. I'm good. Tired, but good.

**Mitch Moss** (0:50)
Explain exactly what people can get into when they download the app and they go there and try to give it a whirl for the first time.

**Robert McCall** (0:57)
What we've done is we've gamified sports handicapping. We're doing sports prediction tournaments. When you sign on the app, we've got a free-to-play game, so you can get on there, test it out. Anything you can do on a traditional book, you can do there.
Everyone starts with the same chips, 10,000 chips. Think of the chips as the scoreboard. You use those on any prop, same game parlay, any total. Anything you could do on a book, you accumulate it over amount of time. And the person with the most chips at the end wins.

**Mitch Moss** (1:26)
And can people, like right now, can they create a tournament or a weekly thing with let's say eight, nine, 10 friends and make it a recurring thing?

**Robert McCall** (1:34)
Yeah, we do have that.
You can email, we can do custom leagues where it's password protected and it's only your friends. We can do weekly, monthly or season long for custom. So yeah, that is available.

**Mitch Moss** (1:46)
What should people search in the app store?

**Robert McCall** (1:49)
The Sharps.

**Mitch Moss** (1:50)
And it comes up, it's just that, The Sharps, and they'll see it right away.

**Robert McCall** (1:54)
Yep.

**Mitch Moss** (1:54)
Okay. Overall, the core line is that most people think that they know football.

**Robert McCall** (2:02)
Yeah.

**Mitch Moss** (2:02)
Right. And here would be a good way to like start it off to see what they actually know when it comes to betting.

**Robert McCall** (2:07)
Yeah. I mean, I think that, you know, traditionally you get the book and you can you do things and you might have a good week and then you just, you know, the next week might not be so good.
And because of that, you know, a book is, you know, you're against the book. With us, it's kind of a team game. We want you to get become better. And so when you come there, we give you the ability to, you know, test some different sports, try some different player props, try some different things. And it's, you know, it's more of an education aspect than anything when you join up.

**Pauly Howard** (2:37)
How about how it's easy to use and also the strategy? Like when you go on the site, it'll say max bet with the chips, half bet, $1,000 bet, $2,000 bet. And how much do I really like the game? And how much do I want to put on this chip wise?

**John Jastremski** (2:50)
Yeah.

**Robert McCall** (2:50)
And so what we did is we took like a traditional book, right? And we look at it. And so Circa, for instance, they're going to have limits on certain props or sides, totals. And what we've tried to do is instead of having one home run parlay win, we force you to bankroll manage. We force you to make plays over time because that's the true, you know, measure of skill in my opinion.

**Mitch Moss** (3:12)
It's in, you guys are available right now in 47 states.

**Robert McCall** (3:16)
Correct. We're working with different states. We're really, our free play game is available everywhere. Traditionally, there's some states that are just taboo that we're staying out of right now, but we're actively talking to regulators, hoping that we can become somewhat of a responsible gaming platform.

**Mitch Moss** (3:35)
Every place is free, like you said. Which states are you not in where you can actually play for some cash?

**Robert McCall** (3:40)
So, Washington State, Nevada and Kansas currently, we're not operating to be able to get in the cash games.