Flow Genome Project's Jamie Wheal and Steven Kotler on Altered States of Consciousness and Stealing Fire

Steven Kotler (0:00)

The things we know for sure, you get one shot at this life, and you're going to spend a third of it asleep.

Those things are non-negotiable facts. So to me, the only question that matters is, are you going to be fully awake for the rest of it?

Michael Gervais (0:23)

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