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FLAVA BREAKFAST BEST BITS: Charlie's kids want to be Māori?!

Flava Breakfast

November 5, 2026

ON TODAYS SHOW: Azura and Charlie discuss the new Kiwi's VS Tonga bet! We also chat to the kid who is Tongan but thinks he is Māori! Charlie tells us that his kids want to be Māori too! For more, follow our socials: Instagram Facebook TikTok

Speakers Azura Lane, Charlie Pōmare, Charlotte

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SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

Let's go. The Flava Breakfast Podcast.

Azura Lane (0:03)

Yo, welcome to the podcast, where you will hear, you know, how I think awesome it is that all the kids here in Aotearoa, New Zealand, they're like a fruit salad, as in, they're one culture one day, they're another the next.

Charlie Pōmare (0:20)

I mean, that's normal.

And you know, it comes back down to being around your schoolmates in school, that school environment, work environment. And it's not just the kids. Adults are a part of this as well. But we got to talk to PJ's mom, Charlotte, and she explained everything to us, and that makes sense to me. Because my kids, my son, who is about to turn 14 in December, Rob, he went through the same phase as well.

Azura Lane (0:45)

It's a cool phase, and it's a phase we didn't go through. Tell you what, we weren't out here claiming all these other cultures. We were barely claiming our own. Do you know what I mean?

So it's really cool to be able to even move into this space and hear from parents and hear their kids embracing not only their own but everyone else's. I'm like, man, makes me so proud.

Charlie Pōmare (1:08)

Do you know what's funny?

And I'm gonna put this down to World Cup. People could say otherwise, but since the Rugby League World Cup has started, it's good to see the young kids get amongst it. And just seeing the pride.

Azura Lane (1:23)

They're hearty, aren't they?

Charlie Pōmare (1:23)

Hearty, hearty as the other day yesterday. I seen two kids, and I would say these two kids are between the ages of eight and nine.

Standing in front of their house on a busy road, on Ross Common Road in Manurewa, if you know, you know, waving their flags in the rain, and bro, cars are just going past, beeping, and that's just jeering them up. And seeing them waving their flag and holding their flag with pride, it just brings joy to my heart, eh?

Azura Lane (1:49)

And that's what today was all about, Flava.

Charlie Pōmare (1:51)

Azura Lane's got a spring in her step. Oh, look at that smile. Oh, how good. The Kiwis have finally entered the chat, and we're talking about the great game of Ragged the League. Semifinals, we're in the business end of the World Cup campaign. You got Semifinal 1, Tonga versus Kiwis. Semifinals 2 is Australia versus Toa Samoa.

Azura Lane (2:12)

And yes, you know, obviously, the one we're focusing on is Kiwis and Tonga, because I'm supporting Kiwis, Charlie's supporting Tonga. Can I just say, I love you guys on the Texas 8200

There's been so many Texas supporting the Kiwis. Like, Stuart, what's up, Stuart? He said, brother Charlie needs to take the car home tonight so he can get used to driving it. Someone else goes, looking forward to a Toa Kiwis final. MMT have that Versace kit. So at least I have something nice to wear to the final.

Charlie Pōmare (2:40)

Where are all my MMT fans? Like bro, since Kiwis have entered the chat, they have flooded our text lines. Bro, like I'm out here, bro. It's a 1V300 going on over here, but it's all good, bro.

Azura Lane (2:55)

Bring it.

Charlie Pōmare (2:56)

I want that smoke.

Azura Lane (2:57)

Yeah, and the bet goes between Charlie and I. My very first bet, by the way, that I've ever done here at Flava. I've sat very, very quietly to keep out of it, but I feel super confident that we're gonna win. And when we do, Charlie has to drive my 2006 Toyota Oris for a week, and I get to his Range Rover. And if you know Charlie, you know, he loves his cars, man. He's a car guy, and I am the opposite of that. If it gets me from point A to B, we good. Play on. And I just want to remind you how crap my car is. Remember, this is what the car sounds like when you turn it on. Just a little squeaks McGee. And then when you drive it between the kilometers of 50 Ks to about 60 Ks, when you're accelerating, it's fine when you take your foot off the gas. It makes this sound.

And that's going to be you, bro, for a week picking the kids up from school, going to the gym, going to church. Because if anyone sees you not in my car, there will be penalties and punishments. And I know that the Flava whanau, they got my back. They will be keeping an eye on you.

Charlie Pōmare (4:03)

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