**Sam Parr** (0:00)
Okay, so we've talked about One Chart Businesses before, and this is the idea that you could be the midwit in the midwit meme, where you gotta explain and analyze, and give you 10 reasons why this might be a good idea, the pros and the cons, and you're overanalyzing it, or you could just be the badass, the badass, the Jedi.
**SPEAKER_3** (0:18)
It just puts the one chart up and says, this is why I'm doing what I'm doing. All right, we're back.
**Shaan Puri** (0:32)
Just Sam and Sean, the band's back together for the first time in a long time.
You have a bunch of topics, but I want to kick us off. Can I kick us off?
**Sam Parr** (0:42)
Okay. Go.
**Shaan Puri** (0:43)
Have you ever read the book 48 Laws of Power?
**Sam Parr** (0:46)
I've never actually read it, but I've read some of the laws.
**Shaan Puri** (0:50)
It's a wonderful book. It's cool. And there's one law where it's law number 25 and it says, something like, be able to reinvent yourself. And the author says, recreate yourself with a powerful new image that stands out and draws attention rather than letting others define you. Then change your appearance and emotions to suit the occasion or stage riveting dramas as backdrops for your actions.
And I love this book. And that's law number 25, where he talks about changing your image. There's a person who I've recently discovered that has done this excellently. And I think that you and I can learn a lot about him. And so there's a rumor about this guy. They say that if you arrange seats like a boardroom, he magically appears.
So this guy, listen to his background. So he graduated from Stanford. Then he went on to join Google at the age of 22, where he was the lead product manager and he helped create Google Maps.
After that, he started this social networking site called FriendFeed, which he sold to Facebook and Facebook incorporated it. And one of the big things that Facebook took from it was they actually created the like button because of it. He sold that for about $50 million.
Few years later, he becomes the CTO of Facebook. After that, he founds a company that I can best describe as a note-taking company, but for enterprises.
He sells that to Salesforce for $750 million. After a couple of years, he becomes co-CEO of Salesforce, which I think, what are they worth? $100 billion more, I don't even know. Hundreds of, one of the biggest companies in the world. Then he becomes chairman of the board at Twitter. He's chairman of another really large publicly traded company that many people haven't heard of. They make security cameras. He's also on the board at Shopify. And last night, he was named chairman of the board of OpenAI. This guy's amazing. He's only 43 years old. You know who I'm talking about?
**Sam Parr** (2:41)
One and only, Bret Taylor.
**Shaan Puri** (2:43)
That's right. Have you ever like spoke or hung out with this guy?
**Sam Parr** (2:47)
I had a dinner once.
He was there and, but we were on opposite ends of the table. So he was at the far end, on the head of the table that way. I was at the far end of the head of the table the other way.
It was like a slope of like success. It's like most successful person on that side of the table and least successful person over here. I was like the bottom of the puddle at the bottom of the slide there. So it was, he's a good dude though. He had good energy, good jokes.
They seem like a good time. But he also seemed like the guy that could flip a switch and be incredibly serious if he wanted to. Hey, let's take a quick second to talk about our sponsor HubSpot. You know it, we know it. Next year is creeping up quick. And if you want to win inside your niche in 2024, you need tech that puts you in the pilot seat. You can collaborate on every inch of the customer journey inside HubSpot's new sales hub. With a comprehensive prospecting workspace and powerful sales analytics tools, your data is connected across your teams. So your leads never slip through the cracks.
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