Fight Companion - October 21, 2023

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Bryan Callen (0:12)

Now, you want to place a little bet? What?

Brendan Schaub (0:15)

What's going on?

Bryan Callen (0:15)

Well, I was just talking to Brendan. He seems to be kind of froggy and maybe, I mean, who do you, I mean, I, do you want me to tell you who I got?

Joe Rogan (0:22)

Sure.

Bryan Callen (0:23)

So I'm going to Usman. I believe in MMA math.

And-

Joe Rogan (0:27)

What's your MMA math?

Bryan Callen (0:29)

Well, he, he beat Gilbert Burns.

Gilbert Burns gave, comes out the what for, and I'm going with it. I don't care what anybody says. So I'm going to Usman. He's championship material. I don't think comes out has been tested yet. This is going to be a big test. I said it.

So I'm going to Usman. You want to take some of that action?

Brendan Schaub (0:47)

But Schaub, what are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_4 (0:48)

I, I, I like making things interesting.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

Like I love Kamaru, but it's a little bit end of the road. I don't think he's washed up. I think that's unfair to say to, you know, with Leon Edwards, just cause he lost to Leon twice. Leon's a bad motherfucker, you know?

Brendan Schaub (1:03)

Without a doubt.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

So, so you can't say he's washed up, but Hamzat, I've been on his hairy, degustating nuts for quite some time.

SPEAKER_4 (1:10)

Chechnin.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

Chechnin. Yeah, same area.

SPEAKER_4 (1:12)

Chechnin.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

They're both hairy.

Bryan Callen (1:14)

Please be respectful of geography.

SPEAKER_4 (1:15)

Both hairy as shit.

Joe Rogan (1:16)

So, I think Hamzat's like the next thing.

Bryan Callen (1:19)

Sure.

Joe Rogan (1:20)

Like the, the guy, he's that talented.

Bryan Callen (1:22)

Yep.

Brendan Schaub (1:22)

Do you think 85 is the move for him? Do you think the 70 is just too much?

Joe Rogan (1:26)

Too much of a cut for him, too much of a cut.

Brendan Schaub (1:28)

I wonder with him, with the really big guys, you know, there's such a giant difference between the big 70s and the big 85s. They look like four different weight classes.

Eddie Bravo (1:39)

Paulo Costa. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

He's a big boy.

Brendan Schaub (1:42)

Marvin Vittori, Jared Cannoneer.

Joe Rogan (1:44)

I really wanted to see them.

Brendan Schaub (1:45)

They're giant, Duplassi's giant. He's so big, I can never believe he's 185 Whenever I'm interviewing him after the fight, he's a Hulk.

He's so big.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

Think about Hamzat, if he wins this fight, Dana said, whoever wins this gets the next title shot. Hamzat's path to the 85 titles, it's not that impressive. That's how talented he is.

Brendan Schaub (2:04)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:05)

You look at his wins, because Kamara's not a real...

Brendan Schaub (2:07)

He's also very, very popular. We really haven't seen him against a canineer or a Strickland or any top dogs in the 85 title division.

Joe Rogan (2:15)

That's what I'm saying.

Brendan Schaub (2:17)

Hamzat.

Joe Rogan (2:17)

Hamzat. So he's skipping that, he's skipping the line and going straight to the champion.

Brendan Schaub (2:21)

I think his first fight in the UFC was 85 Yeah, his fight, Gerald Mearshaar was 85

Joe Rogan (2:26)

He has some wins. All I'm saying is, not the guy you're talking about, that's a different level.

Brendan Schaub (2:31)

Different animal, different size. Pejeda was the 85 pound champ.

Eddie Bravo (2:36)

He's so big.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

Massive. Have you seen him at 205?

Brendan Schaub (2:39)

Still massive.

Joe Rogan (2:40)

When they show him, you're like, what the, how'd this guy get to 85?

Brendan Schaub (2:42)

Willpower.

Eddie Bravo (2:43)

What do you think about Strickland versus Hamzat?

Brendan Schaub (2:46)

Very interesting fight. Very interesting fight.

On the feet, dude. I rewatched that Strickland out of Sonya fight.

Eddie Bravo (2:52)

Me too.

Brendan Schaub (2:53)

That motherfucker is so underrated.

And everybody was thinking, and me included, that out of Sonya was gonna have such a massive advantage in striking, but what you saw was skill. The checking of that low kick was so important. Never got his movement compromised. This fucking Philly shell that he uses, he's the best at it in the sport.

Joe Rogan (3:14)

How about his defense?

Brendan Schaub (3:15)

The guy barely gets hit.

Joe Rogan (3:16)

His defense is nuts.

Bryan Callen (3:17)

He made it a boxing match. He's close distance.

Brendan Schaub (3:20)

Also, he's so crazy and outrageous that people dismiss him as not being good.

Joe Rogan (3:26)