Fable 5 Is Back & Govt-Leashed, Altman Offers 5% of OpenAI & AI Grows Conscious | #269

**Peter Diamandis** (0:00)
Fable 5 came back online globally on July 1st with a few provisos. This feels like the first time a frontier model has a standing duty to the US government.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:10)
This is probably close to the best scenario we could have hoped for.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:14)
Sam has been talking to Trump, Lutnick, Besant and Bernie Sanders about a 5% equity stake in OpenAI. That 5% stake would be worth about $42.6 billion.

**Dave Blundin** (0:25)
The idea that the government is going to set up some intelligence, sovereign wealth equity thing is absolutely insane. The next president will immediately sell it all, turn it into cash, and then use it to buy votes from the next election.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:37)
Yesterday, Anthropic just published a paper titled A Global Workspace in Language Models, claiming they found something inside Claude that looks a lot like the machinery of consciousness. If we can understand the innermost thoughts of these models, then there's a chance to actually shape them.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:56)
This is so exciting, Peter, I think I can see the end game. The end game looks like this.

**Alex Karp** (1:03)
Now, that's a moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:09)
So Salim, where are you today? You're not at home.

**Salim Ismail** (1:12)
I'm in Mallorca in Spain at a retreat hosted by the Festival of Consciousness, which is a conference coming up this weekend in Barcelona. We helped curate this and help put this together in the original years. Several thousand people show up at the Barcelona Convention Center for kind of an experiential understanding of consciousness.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:34)
Well, we're going to talk about AI and consciousness today, so that's good.

**Salim Ismail** (1:37)
We are indeed.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:38)
I am the pot calling kettle black. I'm in Germany at this moment.

**Salim Ismail** (1:43)
Yes.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:43)
Off to Greece tomorrow. Yeah.
Just got back from Calgary, where my kids are now doing a month long sort of learning responsibility and hard work on a ranch, let's put it that way.

**Dave Blundin** (1:56)
That's awesome. Wow. What kind of ranch? It's like, milk the cows in the morning.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:00)
It's cattle and horses. They're going to be mending fences. They're going to be doing all kinds of things from a dear friend whose name I don't want to mention, but because he likes his privacy, but yeah, amazing. All right.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (2:11)
Wait, so Peter, did I hear correctly, you're teaching them an abundance mentality through farm work?

**Peter Diamandis** (2:18)
I'm teaching them what it used to be like before the robots arrived.

**Salim Ismail** (2:23)
So they'll appreciate the abundance. Abundance is earned.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:27)
Yeah, good deal. I appreciate that concept.
I am excited about today's episode without any question whatsoever.
There is a lot and it's kind of insane. So let me just kick it off here. Welcome to Moonshots, your number one podcast on all things AI and exponential. Your front row seat to the Singularity here with my incredible Moonshot mates, AWG, our in-house AGI. I'm elevating you.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (2:57)
I've been downgraded from ASI to AGI. Thanks, Peter.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:01)
I'm going to work your way back up to ASI. Where do you go from being an ASI?

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (3:06)
I can't cut a break.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:08)
Oh, my God. Dave Blundin, our empersario of AI Investing and Salim Ismail, our Globetrotter and master of the Organizational Singularity. I'm Peter Diamandis, your host and your abundance amplifier. This past week has been utterly insane. It feels like a decade compressed into seven days. I can't wait to get into it. Today, we're going to cover nine stories including Anthropic's Fable 5 model coming back online and the imminent release of GPT 5.6.
Has it been up? Is it up yet? Alex? Not yet.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (3:41)
Not as of the last time I checked.

**Peter Diamandis** (3:42)
Okay. Well, we'll find out if it pops up during this. Anyway, we'll discuss evidence of something inside Claude that looks a lot like the machinery of conscious thought. Next we'll dive into OpenAI's offer of equity to the US government. Sam Altman's proposal for global regulation. Fascinating conversation. Finally, we're going to get a review of new jobs data that counters the prevailing narrative that AI is inducing job loss. And we'll discuss the acceleration of the innermost loop. An incredible story of AI building better AI chips to build better AI. As always, our mission here on Moonshots is to keep you up to speed, help you understand what's going on, what the impact is to you, your business, your life, your family, and most importantly, to keep you optimistic about the future. All right, gentlemen, let's dive in.