Ex-Secret Service Interrogator Questions James Talarico’s Flu Story

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Patrick Bet-David (0:30)

Last thing before we wrap up. Are you following what's going on with this big Senate race in Texas? James Talarico and Ken Paxton? Are you following any of it?

Evy Poumpouras (0:38)

I saw a little bit. I'm typically a political. Just catch me up on it.

Patrick Bet-David (0:41)

What do I need to know? You don't even need to know anything about it. So these two guys are facing each other. And the guy goes missing for nine days.

Okay? He was missing nine days. And this is more of a body language read. Okay? It's nothing more than political. It's just do you believe him or do you not believe him? So it's a big race, massive race. Ken Paxton, maybe not the most exciting candidate, Republicans have put together. James Talarico, extremely talented, polished, very charming, charismatic, right?

Evy Poumpouras (1:09)

As long as it's genuine, Patrick, I'm okay with it.

Patrick Bet-David (1:12)

He, for nine days, he says he had the flu. In one scene, he says he went to urgent care. In another scene, he says he went and met with his physician. This reporter's asking him, see if you believe him or not. Go for it.

James Talarico (1:21)

I went to the urgent care here in Dallas and I was diagnosed with the flu.

SPEAKER_5 (1:27)

How bad was it, for somebody who wants to know, is this just like in bed rest or did you ever have to go to a doctor or hospital?

James Talarico (1:33)

I just went to my primary care physician, but it wasn't anything worse than a nasty case of the flu. And last night, it got so bad that I went to the urgent care here in Dallas, and I was diagnosed with the flu.

SPEAKER_5 (1:48)

How bad was it for somebody who wants to know?

Patrick Bet-David (1:49)

So remember, this is the biggest race, is the third biggest race in the midterms that's coming up.

It's nine days you go missing, ten days you go missing, two, three weeks before the election date. Do you believe him?

Evy Poumpouras (2:04)

No. I mean, he just lies.

He says two different stories, right?

Patrick Bet-David (2:08)

Right.

Evy Poumpouras (2:09)

So no, like right off the bat, it's a, he's lying. So one is saying, one is I went to my primary care physician, and the other is I went to urgent care. One, it was like, oh, it's nothing, right? And then the other was, oh, it was something.

So I'm getting to do, it's a perpetrator. It's the guys I would have in the interview room. That's a way, which story is it?

Patrick Bet-David (2:27)

Really?

Evy Poumpouras (2:28)

Well, yes.

I don't know him. You're asking me to do just a purely-

Patrick Bet-David (2:32)

Can you see if you can find a little bit more longer in the conversation to see if she has more content?

Evy Poumpouras (2:36)

I would have to, but what you do in a scenario like this, I would corroborate it. Show me a receipt, show me a medical document, show me something that says you went here.

Patrick Bet-David (2:50)

Okay.

Evy Poumpouras (2:51)

I'm going to do something.

SPEAKER_1 (2:52)

If it's okay with you, Patrick. Yeah.

Evy Poumpouras (2:53)

Let me hit pause. I'm going to take it to the beginning.

I'm just going to do it because there's multiple things. Just hold on. So I'm going to just do, play, explain, play, explain.

SPEAKER_5 (3:04)

You were off the campaign for more than a week, roughly nine days.

Evy Poumpouras (3:07)

So the one thing, these are just indicators. Again, I want to clarify, it doesn't mean somebody's absolutely lying or not. These are the things I noticed. One, he's standing very stiff.

He's not moving a lot. He does move his arms a little bit towards the end, but he's very stiff. He's not relaxed. So if I have a high cognitive load, if I'm about to lie, I'm not going to move around a lot because I'm working so hard to pay attention and to not mess up. Now, you might have this with guests if you ever see them. I don't know if you've had it where sometimes people are very stiff. It's just because the load is so high. So typically, you can see this with people who are going to lie. I'm so on, I'm so worried, I'm going to lie, I really need to be on. He just seems very stiff, that's just body, just indicators.