Evolving - From Transactional to Transformational Relationships | NASCAR Driver, Kurt Busch

Kurt Busch (0:00)

When you are in any business, a CEO or an employee, if you're an athlete, when things slow down and when things are in the zone, like we've seen with Michael Jordan, on how when he's shooting the basketball, it seems like the hoop is the size of a hoop, or a manhole cover is what Tiger Woods is putting at when he's in that zone.

That's when you're going to that next level. That's when things have slowed down, and it's because your awareness is prepared by your preparation, and your preparation is meeting that opportunity because of all of the steps that you've put in place, and it's the same as walking into a boardroom as a CEO and knowing to look on somebody's eye, or to watch their body language, or to know that when they're stumbling through a presentation, it's because they haven't done the right things to be in a position to win.

Michael Gervais (1:08)

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OK, this week's conversation is with NASCAR champion legend Kurt Busch. In 2019, Kurt made the move to Chip Ganassi Racing to become the driver of the number one Monster Energy Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 in the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series. It's a mouthful. It's also known as Menx for short.