Even Heretics Deserve Rituals! With Jeremy Steele

Dan Beecher (0:00)

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Dan McClellan (0:51)

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Jeremy Steele (2:20)

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SPEAKER_4 (2:23)

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SPEAKER_5 (2:25)

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Dan McClellan (2:27)

Enough.

Jeremy Steele (2:29)

Enough to get lost?

SPEAKER_4 (2:31)

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Dan McClellan (2:34)

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Jeremy Steele (2:52)

There's no reason that all of these things have to be controlled by a system that is trying to bilk you out of money or tell you you're going to hell or whatever. Like we own this, humanity owns this.

Dan McClellan (3:16)

Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (3:18)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (3:19)

And this is Data Over Dogma, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How are things today, Dan?

Dan Beecher (3:30)

Things are good here in Salt Lake City, but more importantly, things are gonna be good in the DC metro area, because we get to talk to a guest.

This is one of the rare instances of a returning champion. Yes.

Dan McClellan (3:45)

We mostly get turned down when we say, would you like to come back on the show?

Dan Beecher (3:49)

Absolutely not. I will never come back on the show.

Jeremy Steele (3:52)

No.

Dan Beecher (3:53)

Today, we have Jeremy Steele joining us to talk about his new book, which just, it's hot off the presses.

Jeremy Steele (4:02)

Hot off the presses.

Dan Beecher (4:05)

Coming in hot and steamy. Jeremy, welcome back to the show.

Jeremy Steele (4:10)

Thanks so much. Hop and steamy like a pile of...

Dan Beecher (4:15)

Like a pile of book.

Jeremy Steele (4:16)

Like a pile of book.

Dan Beecher (4:20)

Yeah. So why don't we talk a little bit about that book? The book itself is called Rituals for Heretics.

Jeremy Steele (4:29)

Yeah. Rituals for Heretics. That's the thing.

I'm actually a certified heretic. I've been certified by commenters on social media.

Dan McClellan (4:40)

I thought you were going to say Universal Life Church because that's not true.

Dan Beecher (4:43)

Oh, jeez.

Jeremy Steele (4:45)