Episode 1039: How Wall Street Hides Data from Retail, Silicon Valley's Effective Altruism

Martin (0:00)

Yo, look who it is. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome back, how was your trip?

SPEAKER_2 (0:04)

I'm glad to be back. Yeah? Europe, Italy, Austria, 10 days.

Brought you one of these back. Oh yeah, thank you. This is the real Mozart.

Martin (0:14)

What the? It's a Mozart? Mozart chocolate?

SPEAKER_2 (0:16)

Mozart chocolate ball, yeah. There's one more in the kitchen. I hear it, oh my god.

Did I tell you I got stuck in an airplane in Rome on tarmac for eight hours?

Martin (0:26)

No.

SPEAKER_2 (0:26)

Yeah, I was on the plane back when they were doing the interest rates yesterday on my Wi-Fi. Oh my god. My Wi-Fi cut out. I was like, what is going on?

Martin (0:36)

I've got a week. I went to SF in LA and forgot my passport.

SPEAKER_2 (0:43)

No.

Martin (0:44)

Some of my medicine.

SPEAKER_2 (0:45)

No.

Martin (0:46)

Then I went to All In, which was great. But one of the problems with one of these conferences is, I want to go meet people.

SPEAKER_2 (0:53)

Yeah.

Martin (0:54)

But everyone wants to meet me. I want to meet 1% of the people. The 99% of the people want to meet me.

And so I'm surrounded by college kids. The people I really, again, I'm flattered. I appreciate everyone who's interested in what I have to say. But I want to meet the billionaires. Yeah.

SPEAKER_2 (1:13)

Did you get to meet Jensen?

Martin (1:15)

No. No.

SPEAKER_2 (1:16)

They sequestered him somewhere?

Martin (1:18)

I'm sure he, you know, came in. He was pretty good.

SPEAKER_2 (1:22)

Threw a helicopter somewhere, a secret trap door.

Martin (1:25)

Yeah, there was, yeah, it was an interesting little venue, but then we went to this, like, crazy mansion.

It was supposed to have dinner with, it was going to be a VIP dinner with the besties, which are the all-in-hosts. And then, like, a handful of people, like VIPs. And then they just changed the venue to the after party, or the party, the main party for the night, which was, like, a thousand people.

SPEAKER_2 (1:47)

Oh my god.

Martin (1:48)

And I brought the kid and the wife, and it was just overwhelming. You know, she's pregnant, so, you know, that was, you know, she's not, you know, 100 percent, so, you know. And so...

SPEAKER_2 (2:02)

It was too much.

Martin (2:03)

It was just not as productive as I would have liked. I liked getting my message out there, I liked being seen by people, for sure. But, like, if I had to do it again, I would have literally shown up to speak.

SPEAKER_2 (2:13)

Maybe that's what Jensen did. He was like, he got on stage and then he bounced. Oh my god.

Did you see the frame mogging at the Salesforce conference? All the memes coming out? It's like Mark Benioff is like seven feet tall, and he's just like shaking hands with... My god.

Martin (2:32)

I saw the Dari.

SPEAKER_2 (2:33)

Oh yeah. Yeah.

Martin (2:34)

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_2 (2:34)

It wasn't with anybody else. Jensen was like... Jensen actually talked about it. He's like, look, you're, you know, like a foot taller than me. I don't know if this was... I read on 4chan, it really happened. Someone can fact check it. He was like, yeah, I know you're a foot taller than me, but you know, I've evolved past height. You know, I'm like... Yeah.

And the one with Sam Oldman was hilarious.

Martin (2:54)

Are you okay with me calling you my coworker? Is that okay?

SPEAKER_2 (2:57)

You can call me whatever, as long as the paycheck hits. You know the golden rule, Martin. He who has the gold makes the rules.

Martin (3:02)

Yeah, I guess. Yeah, no, I mean, I respect my coworkers. You can't fire me, but you could quit.

And I don't want that. So...

SPEAKER_2 (3:10)

Yeah, but where am I gonna go that lets me be me? Right?

Martin (3:15)

Good question.

SPEAKER_2 (3:16)

Yeah. Like what company is gonna make me...

Like, they're gonna let me make the Wojak index, right?

Martin (3:22)

I mean...

SPEAKER_2 (3:22)

They're gonna be like, oh, you want to make a heat map, you want to make an IMAP, like all this stuff. As soon as you like it, you're just YOLO at the prod. Like, where can I do that?

Martin (3:30)

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like the Valley's got some creative companies.

SPEAKER_2 (3:35)

Oh, yeah, but then you have to hang out with all these hippies, and they're like effective. Yeah, just like all this nonsense, and it's all this, like, yoga.

Martin (3:44)