English Cricketer Alec Stewart on Authenticity, Work Ethic, and Vision

Alec Stewart (0:00)

What I don't like in people is that they change. You suddenly achieve success, and those people then change for the worse.

Because I was brought up, and I was always told, you meet the same people on the way up, as you do on the way down. So if you've been consistent as a person, both when you're learning, and then when you become successful, and then either in a little bit of failure or disappointment, or you've retired, if you stay pretty level-headed, then I like people like that.

Dr. Michael Gervais (0:37)

All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast. I'm Michael Gervais. And the idea behind these conversations is to learn. It's to learn from people who are on the path of mastery to better understand their psychological framework, which is how they understand how the world works, how they make sense of events, and how they think about their future and their past. And the second part is we want to dig to understand the mental skills that they've used to build and refine their craft.

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Now, in some of the conversations, it's always part of my intent is to really dig, relentlessly dig to work to understand the truth, the truth of the nature of the conversation, but also the truth of the person. And it's hard. It's really hard to do. As many of us can recognize, to be authentic and to be vulnerable and to be open is really challenging. And in this conversation, it just worked, and it was just a pleasure. So this conversation is with Alec Stewart. Alec is a former English cricketer, a right-handed batsman wicketer, and a former captain of the England cricket team. He's the second most capped English cricketer of all time in test matches and the third most capped in one day internationals. Those are called ODIs for the cricket fans.