Emmy Rossum: Shameless, Motherhood & Knowing Your Worth

**Alex Cooper** (0:00)
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Her Daddy.
Emmy Rossum, welcome to Her Daddy.

**Emmy Rossum** (2:23)
Thank you.

**Alex Cooper** (2:24)
Okay.
We have so much to talk about today. You have accomplished so much in your career. You got into the industry as a kid. You spent nearly a decade of your life playing the fierce Fiona Gallagher that we all know and love on Shameless. And you have fought for pay equity in Hollywood. So I am like, girl, we have a lot to talk about today.

**Emmy Rossum** (2:46)
Okay.

**Alex Cooper** (2:47)
I'm so happy to meet you.

**Emmy Rossum** (2:48)
Me too.

**Alex Cooper** (2:49)
The shirt, let's start with the shirt. Because I know you're a true New Yorker.

**Emmy Rossum** (2:52)
Because we're the champions.

**Alex Cooper** (2:54)
Are you still clearly riding the high?

**Emmy Rossum** (2:56)
It's never going to end. Okay. I've been waiting for this since I'm like six or seven years old. I became obsessed with basketball.
I don't know why. I loved watching the sport. I deeply identified with John Starks growing up during that playoff run. I remember I wrote in my diary, he's so fiery on the court and I just identify with him. I see myself in him.
I love basketball because it moves really fast and you can see all the players faces really well and I need to understand the emotional narrative of what's going on with the players in the game. Like football, I'm too far away, I can't see their faces. Hockey, I can't see their faces. Tennis, I like for the same reason it moves fast, I can see them, I'm with them, I'm with the narrative, like what is going on? They're trash talking each other, I can see it.

**Alex Cooper** (3:53)
You want to see the sweat.

**Emmy Rossum** (3:54)
But I need to see the emotion.
I want to see the drive. I love it. I get so invested. I need it, I love it.

**Alex Cooper** (4:04)
Okay, where were you when the next one?

**Emmy Rossum** (4:08)
I was in Rhode Island with a bunch of actors and crew. I just finished a movie there and so we kind of commandeered this bar. The bar was actually, I was like, hey, I'm looking for a place to watch the game. And they were like, oh yeah, that's great. We're actually having a thing on the roof to watch the game. I was like, amazing. So then I got up there and there was all these like World Cup flags. And I was like, are we going to turn on the Knicks? And they were like, what game are you talking about? And I was like, the only game to care about right now.