Elon’s wildest interview yet — our reaction

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
He goes, if you get things done, I love you. And if you don't, I hate you. I thought that was so great.

**Shaan Puri** (0:07)
What a weirdo.

**Sam Parr** (0:10)
When I heard it, I was like, that's how Sam is.
Can I tell you about this Elon Musk podcast? Did you listen to this Cheeky Pine episode with Elon?

**Shaan Puri** (0:27)
I saw it, didn't listen to it.

**Sam Parr** (0:29)
You got to listen to this thing. This is an amazing podcast.

**Shaan Puri** (0:32)
Who's the Indian guy? I started seeing him pop up out of nowhere.

**Sam Parr** (0:36)
Dworkash. Dworkash is a podcaster. He's got his own YouTube channel and whatnot. He is this unicorn because he's a really good podcaster. He's got good energy, good vibe. You like to listen. He's like an authentic nerd in a way, but he's also technical. One of the reasons this podcast is really interesting is because normally Elon says something and he'll be like, I predict that in four years, we will have more data centers in space than we have on earth cumulatively. And then what me or you or Joe Rogan or any of us would do when he says that, oh my, whoa. That's crazy, man. How are you going to do that? It's like that. Come on, bro.
That's all we're capable of. Our little peanut mine can only do so much.

**Shaan Puri** (1:27)
But Elon, that doesn't make sense because electricity doesn't work the same way in space or whatever.

**Sam Parr** (1:31)
Yeah. He was pushing back the whole time to where I was like, is Elon going to throw his drink in his face? Like, what's going on here? Is he going to get mad that this guy keeps pushing back on every idea that he says? And because he pushed back, so he would be like, but why do we need that? We can, you're talking about this much energy, that could be done by this many solar panels, that could fit in just Nevada. So why do we need space to power this? And then Elon would be like, well, here's the reason why, permitting and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, but won't there be other problems in space that are just as difficult? How are you gonna fix a broken GPU when it's in space? Like, what are you gonna do for maintenance? That's gonna be incredibly difficult to do when it's floating in space. And Elon was like, you know, then had to come back with a counterpoint each time. So that was one remarkable thing about the podcast was somebody with enough technical acumen to on the fly calculate. So Elon would say something about space and then he'd be like, so if you're gonna do 10,000 launches, that means you're launching a starship every hour. Every hour you're gonna do a starship launch? How many have you done in the last, you've done like three or whatever in the last year? Like, is that even possible to do an hour every hour? And then Elon would be like, well, you know, there's more planes than that taking off from airports. So yes. And then they would like go into why that's like either correct or incorrect.
It was really funny because the founder of Stripe is sitting there, right? This is, it was like a collab. It was on Cheeky Pine, which is made by the Stripe guy. And he probably asked five questions total in three hours. And Dworkesh asked 500 maybe. But it was exactly what was needed. And shout out to the guy from Stripe for letting that play out the way it did. I thought it made for a great podcast.

**Shaan Puri** (3:10)
Did he best Elon in anything?

**Sam Parr** (3:12)
No, no, it wasn't like a one-up-spinship. But it was definitely a, I'm not just gonna let you say that shit. Like, wait, so what do you know that I don't know? Because I would just think this. And he would like kind of earnestly ask the question. And he'd be like, okay, I buy that that does this, but I don't see the connection you made to this. And so he forced him to keep going, which I thought was great.

**Shaan Puri** (3:32)
Did you feel the same sense that I feel when I see a white guy win a 100 meter dash or like?

**Sam Parr** (3:38)
A sense of national pride?

**SPEAKER_3** (3:40)
Yeah. Like when Chris Anderson.

**Sam Parr** (3:45)
When there's a white cornerback in the NFL.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:49)
Is that how you felt?

**Sam Parr** (3:51)
A little bit, if I'm being honest. Actually, I felt scared for him. I was like, dude, tone it down. This is a little crazy. You just get a little, you get a little feisty here. But he was also like, autistically like, unaware of like, so I can't not ask this. I have to ask this because I want to know the answer to it. And I thought that was so great. He's so earnest in the way he does everything. It's great.