Elon Musk Vs. OpenAI (ft. Zac) | May 14, 2026

**PFT Commenter** (0:00)
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**Big T** (0:08)
Was COVID for you like...

**Zac** (0:11)
Oh, shut it down again.

**Big T** (0:12)
The greatest nights of your life.

**Zac** (0:13)
Shut it down.

**Big T** (0:14)
Yeah, I'd do another two, I'd do two weeks.

**Zac** (0:18)
I would flirt with the idea of like four to six months as long as there's no death.

**Big T** (0:21)
Four to six months?

**Zac** (0:23)
If there's no death, I'm in for four to six.

**PFT Commenter** (0:38)
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**Big T** (0:57)
Look at this, Eric. I just... It took them a minute to get the 16s in here.
Look at these. Shout out No Bull.

**PFT Commenter** (1:04)
The Big T 16s?

**Big T** (1:05)
Yeah, got a black and a white.
Wow. Yeah, they're nice. Still in the box.

**PFT Commenter** (1:10)
How about that?
That's awesome. Good for you, Big T. I'm glad they finally sent you some. They finally... Do you have to get prescription shoes ever?

**Big T** (1:17)
Prescription?

**PFT Commenter** (1:18)
Yeah.

**Big T** (1:18)
No.

**PFT Commenter** (1:19)
It's because the 16s?

**Big T** (1:21)
Well, I normally wear it 17 The No Bulls, we got them in a 16

**PFT Commenter** (1:25)
And when you go into a store, are the first thing that you say before you go like...

**Big T** (1:30)
I haven't bought shoes in a store in well over a decade.

**PFT Commenter** (1:33)
Can't buy them off the rack?

**Big T** (1:34)
No.

**PFT Commenter** (1:34)
Yeah. Damn.

**Big T** (1:35)
Online only. Which is a dangerous game to play.

**PFT Commenter** (1:38)
Because you got to try them on first.

**Big T** (1:39)
Right.

**PFT Commenter** (1:40)
Like is a 16 a 16 or is it a 17?

**Big T** (1:42)
Yeah.

**PFT Commenter** (1:42)
Yeah.

**Big T** (1:44)
But shout out No Bull. They fit amazing.

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Big T, if you saw me walk. If you see a man walking to a yoga class with a rolled up mat, what's your initial thought?

**Big T** (2:22)
What color is the mat?

**PFT Commenter** (2:23)
Probably, probably Commander's. It'll probably be a Commander's branded yoga mat.

**Big T** (2:28)
Okay. What do you do with your hair when you're on the road?

**PFT Commenter** (2:30)
Man bun.

**Big T** (2:31)
See that? You actually look like the kind of guy who would be doing that.

**PFT Commenter** (2:34)
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Welcome back to Macrodosing. It is Thursday, it's May 14th, and today it's going to be myself, Big T, Zac, in studio with us for the first time making his Macrodosing debut. It's Zacrodosing this week.

**Zac** (3:12)
Pretty excited. I appreciate you guys having me today.

**PFT Commenter** (3:14)
Yeah, of course, Zac. Of course. It's going to be a fun discussion. We got Mad Dog McKenzie behind the glass, and we got a lot to get into today.
Eventually, we are going to talk about the Open AI trial that's been going on. It's like two of the richest people in the world, or most powerful people in the world, Elon Musk and Sam Altman, going at it in court, trying to figure out who owns Open AI, whether it's a non-profit, whether it's a for-profit, who has control of it, and exactly how much rhino ketamine Elon did at Burning Man in 2017 We're going to get to the bottom of that. You ever done rhino ketamine, Zac?