Topics: Society & Culture, Health & Fitness
**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Oh, hello friends, welcome back to the show. My guest today is Zack Telander. He's a weightlifter, coach, YouTuber, and all-round fascinating human. He's a good buddy of mine, and we've been meaning to catch up for ages. So we did it. ZT joins me today to talk about the world's most pressing issues. Things like why Elon Musk silences violence, why the Satanic Temple is stepping into Texas' abortion debate, why I got involved in TikTok drama, the implications of men leaving college at record rates, why the Joe Rogan will sue CNN, why the new Matrix trailer is so good, my obsession with airsoft YouTube channels and much more. Let me know what you think about this one. I really, really enjoyed having Zack back on the show. He was on about 18 months ago and we've become really good mates since then. And it's just so nice to be able to riff about the madness that's going on in the world. And I think Zack's a good chalk to my cheese. Like two peas in a pod, a bun's in an oven or some other analogy. But yeah, if you enjoy it, let me know or leave a review or comment on YouTube or something because I'm pretty keen to bringing back on more regularly to just try and decipher what is going on on this little planet. In other news, this episode is brought to you by brand new sponsor, Shortform. Shortform produces Uber high quality guides to non-fiction books. Their guides are like super powered book summaries, a comprehensive coverage of all of the books, key ideas clearly and simply explained plus smart commentary and analysis. It's like your smartest friend teaching you about a book. If you're short on time, you can use Shortform to check out the key ideas and decide if you want to spend your time reading the full thing. You can discover new books that you've heard of and have not been sure if you want to read and have been curious about. For books that you've already read, you can use Shortform to remember the key points. Because they do their own analysis, you can get new insights about the book that you didn't take away yourself. Also, there are thousands of book summaries each with detailed analysis. These smart insights connect what one author thinks to another author, so you get this sort of web of ideas. There's even interactive exercises after each chapter to improve your comprehension and your retention. The next 200 people to sign up at shortform.com/modernwisdomwillgetunlimited access for five days and a discounted annual subscription. You can use everything, check out all of the reviews, see what the platform is like, no obligation, 200 people, the next 200 that sign up at shortform.com/modernwisdom, get that unlimited access for five days and a discounted annual subscription. In other news, this episode is brought to you by Tiege Hanley. Look, if you're a guy, you probably do need some skincare routine because you don't look like a leathery old handbag, but you don't really know what to use and is it meant for men? Tiege Hanley has taken all the guesswork out of it. They've created three different systems that you can use every day. It's super simple. They tell you what to use, when and how much you need, which is the perfect man's solution to skincare. They make the process of starting and maintaining a skincare routine totally uncomplicated. It's only the highest quality ingredients and they formulate the products so that they work seamlessly together. Plus there's an instruction card, right? So you just follow the instructions. There's a daily wash and a two times per week exfoliating scrub and an AM moisturizer and a PM moisturizer. There's tons of different products and all of them work together to make you look like a beautiful man. And you'll have more confidence, right? If your skin's looking well and you're staying youthful, having a bit of a glow, you're going to feel better. On top of that, they're offering a free gift with your first order and you can get started from as little as $25, which will be about £20. Shipping is available to the UK and the USA. Head to tiege.com/modernwisdom. That's tiege.com/modernwisdom.
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Zacky boy, how are you?
**Zack Telander** (4:24)
I'm good, man. I'm excited to be back. How long's it been, a year?
**Chris Williamson** (4:28)
Year and a half, dude, yeah.
**Zack Telander** (4:30)
A year and a half, wow.
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