Elevate Your Thinking, Elevate Your Life | 15x Best-Selling Author, Jon Gordon

Michael Gervais (0:00)

Hey, Dr. Michael Gervais here. Before we get into this week's episode, I have a really exciting announcement that I want to share. This fall on November 7th, I'll be releasing my first book, The First Rule of Mastery, Stop Worrying About What People Think of You. It's all about understanding and overcoming what I believe to be one of the greatest constrictors of human potential, our fear of people's opinions, also known as FOPO.

I am so excited to introduce this book to you and to our community. If you feel like you're on a treadmill chasing after the approval of others, the first rule of mastery is an off ramp to a better life.

If you're interested in learning more and to pre-order the book, head over to findingmastery.com forward slash book, where you can also find some amazing pre-order bonuses that we put together for you. Again, that's findingmastery.com forward slash book. With that, let's jump right into this week's episode of Finding Mastery.

Jon Gordon (0:59)

And we spend billions of dollars avoiding any sorts of pain. Just look at drinking, look at drugs, look at all the medications.

We spend billions. We don't like to feel pain, but you have to go through the pain process in order to actually heal.

Michael Gervais (1:24)

Okay, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Michael Gervais. By trade and training a high-performance psychologist, and I am so thrilled to welcome back Jon Gordon to the podcast for this week's conversation. When you talk to yourself, are you listening?

What are the thoughts that dominate your thinking? Do they build you? Do they support you? Do they connect you to something bigger than yourself?

Jon believes that how you answer these questions is critical to how you show up at the world. Simply put, your performance and your relationships move in the direction of your strongest thoughts.

Now, Jon is best known as an author, and he has an impactful new book that I want you to check out. It's called The One Truth. Elevate Your Mind, Unlock Your Power, and Heal Your Soul. It just came out, so I encourage you to go check it out right after this conversation. But Jon just doesn't write books. He lives his life making sure the principles he values most reach and inspire an audience of all kinds, like those that are running corporations and those that are in the trenches doing whatever it is that matters to them. And it's not a surprise that his 28 books, 28 books, including 15 best sellers and five children's books hold insights that have been embraced by Fortune 500 companies and hospitals, professionals and college support teams, school districts, and of course individuals alike. His passion and positivity, they are contagious. He's focused now on how to transform our thinking, to unlock the greatness in our teams, organizations, our relationships, and ourselves. Jon was one of the original guests on Finding Mastery once back in 2015 and then again in 2017 And I'm excited for you to listen to this one. It is special. Now if you want more context on Jon's origins story, of course go check out the first two appearances. Now with that, let's jump right into this week's conversation with Jon Gordon.

Jon, it's great to see you and to have you back on it's been since 2017 since we last did this. Like it's hard to believe time has flown by that fast. And God, it is great to see you.

Jon Gordon (3:44)

Great to see you. I can't believe it's been that long. It's been like a lifetime.

So many things have happened. The pandemic.

I mean, just so many things have happened since the last time we talked. It's like we've gone through a lot, we've grown a lot, we've learned a lot. And yet it's great to come back and see an old friend.

Michael Gervais (4:03)

In what ways have you grown? Like when you look back since the last time we met, and I really hope that folks that are listening will go back and listen to those two conversations that we had because they're so rich and deep about how you've become a prolific writer and a deep thinker.

But how have you grown since 2017?

Jon Gordon (4:27)

If you're not growing, as you know, you're dying. And if I'm the same person I was in 2017, then that should be a big concern for me and everyone in my orbit, everyone in my life.

But I really have grown so many ways as a father, I think as a husband, as a person. My son during the pandemic really struggled like a lot of young men. And we had to bring him home from college. We had to bring him home during the quarantine.