Easter and the Undead

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Dan McClellan (0:29)

You have different takes on Pilot, where Pilot's like, this man is innocent, but I will do whatever you tell me to. Which is very clearly fiction, because the actual Pilot murdered Jewish citizens in Jerusalem by the handful whenever they annoyed him. The notion that they would get together and be like, we're going to tell on you, and he was like, okay, I'll do what you want, is just not historical.

Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:03)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:04)

And you are listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and combat the spread of misinformation about the same.

Dan Beecher (1:15)

And we do it with enthusiasm.

Dan McClellan (1:17)

And with style.

Dan Beecher (1:18)

I don't know why I needed to be, why did I want to just be enthusiastic in that moment? I'm excited.

Dan McClellan (1:24)

We're trying to cast a wider net for our audience.

Dan Beecher (1:28)

That's right. That's right.

Dan McClellan (1:30)

We tried the sound effects a couple of times. It didn't go so well, but.

Dan Beecher (1:34)

I thought the slide whistle worked. I don't know why you were against it, but fine. Fine.

Dan McClellan (1:39)

I really like the boing sound effect, but you know, there's there's stuff. There's baggage there.

So how are things today?

Dan Beecher (1:49)

Man, it's good. We are fast approaching or depending on when you hear this recently past Holy Week.

We're trying to record this in a time in a timely manner to make sure that it appears sometime around Easter.

Dan McClellan (2:07)

Yes.

Dan Beecher (2:07)

And that is so that's a fun time for a lot of folks.

Dan McClellan (2:13)

The most beloved of holidays for many Christians around the world, although most of them don't call it Easter. But maybe we'll talk about that one.

Dan Beecher (2:22)

Well, we talked about it a year ago, if you'll recall. We talked about Pesach and the fact that it's Passover. Anyway, here's the thing about Easter. I find it very confusing. As a child, I always found it very confusing because there was joy and candy and fun and bunnies and murder.

A really important, horrific, painful, awful murder.

Dan McClellan (2:55)

State violence, yes, state sanctioned violence.

Dan Beecher (2:58)

Which felt incongruous to me. I don't know about the rest of you all, but...

Dan McClellan (3:04)

Well, I didn't know the word incongruous when I was a kid celebrating Easter.

Dan Beecher (3:07)

No, no, I'm imposing that one on you.

Dan McClellan (3:10)

Okay, okay.

Dan Beecher (3:11)

I don't think that I knew that one either. But we're gonna... So, at the beginning of this episode, we're gonna talk about Holy Week, sort of what happened, the timeline.

Do the Gospels maybe... Do they not quite agree on a few things and how does that work? And then, you're gonna talk about resurrection. And not just Jesus' resurrection, but just the concept as a whole.

Dan McClellan (3:43)

Yeah, where did this thing come from? How is it being worked into the Gospels? And yeah, we're gonna get into it.

Probably the most controversial episode that we'll ever have regarding the... I'm being sarcastic.

The notion that the Gospels conflict on their timeline for the final week of Jesus' life probably shouldn't surprise anyone who has ever heard our voices before.

Dan Beecher (4:11)

Yeah, well, let's get into it. I'm gonna call...

We'll just call this a chapter and verse as we dive into this. So, here's the thing. When I started to do some research about Holy Week and wanted a timeline, I just wanted to sort of understand the basic timeline and try to keep straight what each of the Gospels was doing.

Dan McClellan (4:37)

Right.

Dan Beecher (4:38)

All of the timelines that I found were on apologetic websites that didn't seem to think that there were ever any conflicts and it was all very easy to track. Yeah. And then those same websites would be like, of course, you know, the skeptics will say that blah, blah, blah and blah, blah, blah conflict, but that's not true because of all of our, you know, all of X, Y, and Z apologetics.