E47: Facebook's week from hell, Ellen Pao on sexism in Elizabeth Holmes coverage, Newsom's win, frauds & more

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:00)
Where were you on Thursday?

**David Sacks** (0:03)
I was at home. I got family to do.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:07)
Well, family, have you met him?

**David Sacks** (0:08)
What were they like?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:13)
Are they everything you expected?

**David Sacks** (0:15)
I had to meet the new kid.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:16)
He's 19

**Jason Calacanis** (0:19)
What's his major?
Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the All-In Podcast. Yes, we made it to episode 47 in three episodes. It could be episode 50 No plans to do anything other than just try to record this every week for you, the loyal audience with us. Again, coming off an amazing event, a live event on Monday, Tuesday. And I don't know if it went into Wednesday, but David Friedberg's, the production board event.
We recorded our first live All-In. It seems like it went well on an AV basis and the audience seemed to enjoy it. What was the feedback, Friedberg?

**David Friedberg** (1:14)
So, you know, half the room were scientists and they'd never heard of this podcast before. And they were like, what the hell did we just show up to? It's like, who are these four guys on stage drinking this wine, talking about politics for an hour and a half.

**David Sacks** (1:27)
And dropping F bombs.

**David Friedberg** (1:29)
And dropping F bombs. And there was a little bit of kind of seasoning we had to do afterwards to get everyone kind of comfortable. But no, actually, it was fantastic. People loved it. You guys are the highlight.
And I thought it was super fun to do that in person. I don't know what you guys thought.
It's cool energy.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:44)
It's super cool energy.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:46)
And with us again, of course, David Sacks, the Rain Man himself, and the dictator Chamath Palihapitiya. What did you think, Sacks, of the live event format?
Obviously, half the audience were fans of the show, half weren't. Which is better than putting people randomly into it. But I'm glad that the people who are not fans of or have never heard of the show didn't walk out. We didn't have walkouts, so that was good.

**David Sacks** (2:12)
Yeah, I mean, look, we were slightly more palatable to them than Andrew Dice Clay or something like that. It was a good change of...

**Jason Calacanis** (2:29)
Dick-a-ra-dick-a-ra-duck!

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:34)
Jack and Jill went up the hill!

**Jason Calacanis** (2:37)
I think Sacks farted!

**David Sacks** (2:43)
It was a good change of pace. I mean, I think some people commented that the lighting, the production values, weren't that great. They seemed fine to us at the time.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:51)
But...

**David Sacks** (2:51)
So we're going to have to do better on that next time. And other people speculated that we took... We were easier on each other in terms of debating topics because we were in person.
I didn't feel that while sitting there. But you guys tell me if you think that was true.

**David Friedberg** (3:05)
I thought we got a better read on each other in person and we had more dialogue than we normally would over Zoom. I don't know if you guys felt the same.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:13)
I think so. And then I kind of like the evening podcast, the glass of wine. There's something about it, like you're just like a little...

**Jason Calacanis** (3:20)
Yeah, you come in for a landing. You come in for a nice evening, they pay little cards after. It could be a thing.

**David Sacks** (3:26)
I could definitely make Harlan 2012 a regular part of taping this pod. The problem is we tape too early on a Friday, right? If we could change the taping to like happy hour or something like that, it might work better.
Oh, my God.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:39)
Harlan 2012 That's a good bottle of wine.

**David Sacks** (3:45)
Even J Cal knows that. Look at him pretending to be a man of the people.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:48)
That's the one with the round label. I know it. I know. I'm looking at it right now.
Oh, my Lord. Some of those go up in value. Those things are looks like as high as $75.

**David Friedberg** (3:59)
Where we like record after playing poker for two hours. So you're two hours into the wine and poker and then you record. Wouldn't work.

**Jason Calacanis** (4:07)
I think the wine, yes.
I think for a first time, the audio was great. So that's, you know, job one is to get the audio to be 99% consumption happens that way.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (4:19)
I like the line of light in Friedberg's face.