E31: Post-vaccination virtue signaling, pandemic lessons, immigration, Caitlyn Jenner for CA Governor, Big Tech earnings & more

Chamath Palihapitiya (0:00)

This is an incredible fashion disaster we have today. David Sacks is dressed like, where's Waldo?

Friedberg, Friedberg is dressed like driving a fucking Subaru Outback. Oh, God. Unbelievable. I mean, this is ridiculous. Ridiculous.

Jason Calacanis (0:36)

It's another episode of the All-In Podcast, episode 31 With us today from, well, it's just rolled out of bed, the Queen of Quinoa himself, David Friedberg is here.

David Friedberg (0:49)

Let me do my hair.

Jason Calacanis (0:50)

Hopefully, get that hair. It's not going to help.

SPEAKER_5 (0:52)

Have you been studying the homeless problem by yourself going out on the streets or what?

Chamath Palihapitiya (0:57)

What is happening?

SPEAKER_5 (0:58)

Do we need to do an intervention?

David Friedberg (1:01)

All right, I'm going to go change. Give me a five minutes.

Chamath Palihapitiya (1:04)

No, no.

SPEAKER_5 (1:05)

We have to keep the Friedberg minutes up.

Jason Calacanis (1:08)

We have to keep the Friedberg ratio up. I had somebody stop me in Miami and say keep the Friedberg ratio high.

Also with us chiming in is Where's Waldo himself, the skipper, David Sacks, Rain Man is here, the skipper is here.

David Sacks (1:27)

Don't change my nickname. Don't change my nickname. I'm comfortable with Rain Man. Don't throw me off.

Jason Calacanis (1:33)

Definitely okay with Rain Man. Of course, not the skipper, not the skipper. And the dictator himself got a full night's sleep, I hope this time.

Chamath Palihapitiya (1:42)

I did.

Jason Calacanis (1:45)

And of course, I'm J Cal, the baby seal here in Miami. Look at the view. How beautiful. It's been an incredible, incredible week. The tiger has been unleashed. I went to Austin.

Now I'm in Miami.

Chamath Palihapitiya (1:59)

J Cal, you're more like a pudgy hyena. I don't know.

Jason Calacanis (2:07)

The quarantine 15, big announcement, 10 pounds are gone, five to go. I'm lifting weights outside in Miami. It's been amazing. Fields report. I get to Austin. I kid you not. I got my mask on.

10 people, first of all, 10 people say I love the All-In podcast every like 15 feet walking in Austin and in Miami.

But somebody looks at me with my mask and says, are you okay, son?

David Friedberg (2:33)

And I was like, what?

Jason Calacanis (2:38)

I kid you not. And he said, are you vaccinated? And I said, yeah. He's like, why are you wearing a mask? And I realized it's time for independent critical thinking.

Sacks, I got to give it to you. Another great, great tweet for me to copy and adapt to steal your deal. I love this tweet that you had, where you said early in the pandemic, explain the tweet or maybe read the tweet.

This is the one about masks, about one group of people wouldn't wear masks.

David Sacks (3:06)

Oh, yeah. Well, at the beginning, that's right. I mean, the dysfunction of our politics is that half the country wouldn't wear a mask at the beginning of the pandemic. And now the other half of the country won't take them off at its end.

This is the problem is that the mask has become it's the equivalent of the red MAGA hat for Team Blue. This has become some sort of virtue signaling, even when it's not necessary.

But it's actually destructive because it's performatively sending the signal to people that the vaccines don't work. And we have a third of the country today is still vaccine hesitant. And this is not helping. What we need to be sending the message to them is, look, get vaccinated so life can get back to normal. So you don't have to wear a mask.

And, you know, we still have the CDC putting out this ridiculous conservative and timid guidance saying that, well, if you get vaccinated, you can take off your mask outdoors as long as you're not with too many people. Well, like what? No, I mean, look, once you get vaccinated, you should need to wear a mask outdoors or indoors. And, you know, we had the state, this sort of mini state of the union this past week with Biden. And it was this really like nobody was there.

No, it was like an empty room because of social distancing and they were all wearing masks, even though, you know, every single one of them is vaccinated. And so I think Biden really missed an opportunity in that speech. Yes, he said that everyone should get vaccinated, but show, not tell. I mean, you know, he walks up to the microphone in a mask saying that we should all get vaccinated. Well, what is the mask for? Why don't you tell people that if you get vaccinated, you don't need a mask anymore. And so, you know, we have this sort of contrast.