E168: Can Google save itself? AI takes over Customer Support, Reddit IPO teardown

**David Sacks** (0:00)
Jason, where are you? Is that a virtual background or?
Oh, it's a ****. Oh, right. That's a **** place. I did look architecturally familiar to me.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:08)
It is architecturally significant. We'll bleep out the Beeps house. But yes, this is like top three or four of places I like to be a house guest.
I'm in rotation right now, my house guest.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:20)
You're Cato Caelin-ing through our friend group?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:22)
Basically, I'm just a great house guest. People like to have breakfast with me.
People like having me around. So I just find myself in mansions around the world.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:31)
Hey Nick, do you have an updated picture of Jato Caelin? Is he still alive and kicking?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:35)
He's alive for sure. He's got to be 70 or something, right? He's got to be older than that.

**David Friedberg** (0:39)
He was on one of those reality TV shows with Dr. Drew, I think, a couple of years ago.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:43)
What does Cato Caelin do?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:44)
He's a good hang.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:45)
He's the head.

**David Sacks** (0:46)
There's a lot of these people in LA, you know.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:48)
They just hang.
They kind of hang. They set things up. Oh my God.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:55)
Is that current, Cato Caelin?

**David Friedberg** (0:58)
He's 64 now.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:00)
God almighty.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:01)
That's incredible.

**David Sacks** (1:02)
How did he survive?

**David Friedberg** (1:03)
He's got an Instagram account.

**David Sacks** (1:05)
I'll tell you how he survived. See no evil, hear no evil.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:09)
Exactly.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:12)
All I know is, hey, listen, man, he gave me a pool house.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:15)
Snitches get stitches.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:16)
I didn't see anything.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:36)
Alright everybody. Welcome to your favorite podcast, the All-In Podcast, episode 168
David Sacks, can you believe it? We've made it to 168 episodes with me again, the Rain Man, David Sacks. How are you doing, buddy?

**David Sacks** (1:51)
Good.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:52)
I heard you got a big talk coming up. Can you give it another speech? Yeah.

**David Sacks** (1:57)
Yeah. In DC? Yes, I'm giving a talk.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:59)
All right. Get ready for that. All of the GOP fans out there, all your Sacks fans, you got a big keynote coming from Sacks next week. Also with me, of course, the Sultan of Science, formerly known as the Queen of Quinoa.
He's got another crop he's growing. David Friedberg, how are you doing?
How's the crops? How's the fields?

**David Friedberg** (2:20)
So worse.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:21)
How's life in the fields?

**David Friedberg** (2:23)
Worth cold open.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:24)
Not a cold open, these are intros.

**David Friedberg** (2:26)
Oh, intro.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:27)
I'm glad you're not producing. There's a reason why I'm the executive producer.
How's your crops? How's life in the fields?

**David Friedberg** (2:34)
It's great.
Got a great team making progress. Tech is awesome. Having a lot of fun. It's great.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:40)
Back in the CEO seat, huh?
And of course, the chairman dictator who's becoming completely insufferable because he invested in a company seven years ago that is absolutely crushing right now called Groq. We talked about it last week. You're back. You're back, Chamath. Everybody is talking about Groq. You're on cloud nine, it seems.
It's just Bitcoin 60, Groq.

**David Sacks** (3:18)
Well, so the honesty level is going to be through the roof now.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:22)
Oh, right. It's going to be running for governor and buying the Hamptons again.

**David Sacks** (3:26)
The truth bombs that Chamath is going to drop now.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:29)
There is nothing like Pigzerp Chamath. I mean, are we going back? Are we back right now?

**David Sacks** (3:36)
I mean, on paper, what is your stake in Groq already worth?

**Jason Calacanis** (3:38)
We're not talking about that. That's so uncouth. It's so uncouth. But he's buying the Hamptons and he's probably going to buy.

**David Sacks** (3:47)
When has it been uncouth on this podcast to talk about?

**Jason Calacanis** (3:49)
About wins.

**David Sacks** (3:51)
Our wins or assets or any of this stuff?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:54)
These are not wins.

**David Sacks** (3:54)
I agree with that. It's not a win.
You can never count your chickens before they hatch. That's absolutely right.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:59)
I am not counting any chickens.

**Jason Calacanis** (4:01)
Don't book the win. Yes.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (4:02)
There's a lot of hard work to do.
There's a lot more people to sell products to, to build products. By the way, developers, by the way, on Groq, just this past week, in the queue, the wait list tripled. Now there's almost 10,000 developers.