E157: Epic legal win, OpenAI licensing deals, FCC targets Elon, Alex Jones reinstated & more artwork

E157: Epic legal win, OpenAI licensing deals, FCC targets Elon, Alex Jones reinstated & more

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

December 16, 2023

(0:00) Bestie intros: Mullets! (2:56) Recapping Friedberg's holiday party (9:29) Jury rules in favor of Epic Games over Google: How to handle the app store duopoly?
Speakers: Jason Calacanis, David Sacks, David Friedberg, Chamath Palihapitiya, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Nick
**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
We're going mullet this week in honor of your, your closest to mullet right now, Sacks. I see you trying to tuck the lettuce in. It's not gonna work. We see it back there.

**David Sacks** (0:10)
Well, I need the ponytail.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:11)
Whoa, you went full knot?

**David Friedberg** (0:13)
Where is this photo from? Do you have a secret camera in his room? What is this?

**David Sacks** (0:17)
No, my kids took it.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:20)
Are you really doing a douche knot?

**David Sacks** (0:22)
One of my daughters is playing with my hair. She wants to see if she can make a ponytail with it. So she made a ponytail and took a photo.
So we fed it into ChatGPT to ask who it looked like. And it said Thomas Jefferson.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:32)
Just a serious question. Did you do a fit check with Tucker on that? Did you send him that and say fit check?

**David Sacks** (0:37)
You know, not everything has to do with Tucker, J. Cal. The joke's going wild.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:40)
But look at the smile. If you guys don't know what a fit check is, ask your daughters.

**David Sacks** (0:44)
Oh wait, what check?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:45)
A fit check.
What is that? You take a picture of yourself, you send it to your friends, you say fit check, and then they tell you if you look good for the day.

**David Sacks** (0:52)
Oh, okay. It's kind of like a wellness check, but for how you look for fashion.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:56)
Yeah, it's like when Friedberg sends you, I'm having anxiety about this. And then we do a wellness check on Friedberg, see who's going to show up for the show.

**David Sacks** (1:03)
Or we do a wellness check on you when Alex Jones comes back to Twitter.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:07)
I'm putting it out there right now. And Alex Jones is on the back half of the show, just to tease it. Just like I'm going to tease these photos, I pulled the archives and here I am in 1984 with my mullet.
That's a J. Cal mullet from 1984 in Staten Island on the way to a Boy Scout trip. But I thought we would have a little fun.
Sacks actually has been working. He's got his hair stylist. Yeah, well, the gray-

**David Friedberg** (1:32)
He looks like a Lord of the Rings character. Like an Elfin Warrior.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:35)
No, he looks like the Elfin Warrior.

**David Sacks** (1:37)
Where's my bow and arrow?

**Jason Calacanis** (1:38)
Exactly. So we'll punch that up. But Chamath actually, surprisingly, surprisingly good in a mullet.

**David Friedberg** (1:45)
I can't look.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:46)
That's horrible. Oh, Friedberg, you're not getting away on chucks.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:49)
Here it is, Friedberg looks like a Berkeley.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:54)
He looks like Orlando Bloom in Lord of the Rings, right?

**David Sacks** (1:57)
Actually, it looks like more like that vampire movie.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:00)
He does look like Interview with the Vampire, or he looks like he's teaching gender studies at Berkeley in his non-binary. So if you want to take understanding non-binary as their gender studies 101, it's coming this spring.
Friedberg's gonna be teaching on his alma mater. Well done, Friedberg.

**David Friedberg** (2:18)
I'll send you guys a photo. I'll send it to you. I did have a ponytail. I sported it from about age 16 to 19 when I smoked cigarettes too. And I've got photos with the ponytail and the trench coat smoking cigs. So it fits them all.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:29)
All right, so in the spirit of mullets, let's go business first. And we will go to the party at the end. Let's get started, boys.
With me again today, here on the All In Podcast, the king of ****. We've retired queen of quinoa because David Friedberg is CEO of a **** startup.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:05)
He can still be the queen of ****.

**David Sacks** (3:06)
Is **** the main product, Friedberg?

**Jason Calacanis** (3:08)
No, it's ****. So he's the king of ****.

**David Sacks** (3:11)
He's the king of vegetables.

**David Friedberg** (3:12)
Off the record.

**David Sacks** (3:13)
Wait, wait, is classified what crop you're working on?

**David Friedberg** (3:15)
Yeah.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:16)
Absolutely.
Absolutely. It's a SaaS company. Like a SaaS company wants to keep it on the DL, which vertical they're going after, finance or sales, whatever. He's got to keep those. It could be carrots. You never know.
It could be Captain Carrots. You never know.

**David Sacks** (3:28)
Just not beets. Okay, Friedberg, we don't need more beets in the world.

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