E139: Recapping Chamath's wedding, VC surplus, unions vs Hollywood, room-temp superconductors & more

**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
Love you guys.

**David Friedberg** (0:01)
Hey, if you guys are around, you know, and you want to get a glass of wine and some pasta.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:06)
Maybe we'll get a glass of wine later, maybe next week or something, who knows? Maybe we'll all get together in person, have a glass of wine.

**David Friedberg** (0:12)
I see you soon.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:13)
I love you guys. You're about to come to Italy and basically you're going to gain 15 pounds for sure.

**David Sacks** (0:22)
Okay, so we were there in Italy.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:24)
This is a long time ago. Is this when we were in Venice?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:26)
The quality of Italian white wine is outrageous. It's outrageous.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:32)
Do they have a men's bikini for you for when we're in Italy?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:35)
I would buy that. What an incredible country.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:48)
Here we go. In three, two, hey, oh, ah, yeah.
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The All-In Podcast. We are here in beautiful Portofino, Italy, and we have found a new bestie. Introduce yourself. Natalie is your name?

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (1:11)
That is my name, and don't be surprised by my surname.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:14)
Ah, you've got a surname. What is the surname?
Palihapitiya, so you're cousins, apparently, and you run a biotech business, I understand, here in Italy.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (1:27)
In my spare time, when somebody else doesn't consume the life out of me.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:32)
Got it, okay, so you're dealing drugs in Italy, and welcome to The All-In Pod. In all seriousness, we are here in Italy because Chamath and Natalie got married. Big round of applause, very nice. And we decided we'd tape an episode very quickly.
But tell us, what was it like at the wedding marrying Chamath Palihapitiya? Tell us about the wedding.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (2:02)
It was a lot of work, and Chamath was, as you can expect, completely utterly useless.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:11)
Yes, we've seen this.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (2:13)
In fact, counterproductive.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:15)
He showed up well.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (2:16)
And at times, really, really frustrating.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:18)
Yes.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (2:19)
But I love him nonetheless, so here we are. Very happy.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:23)
This is the moment I would like to take credit for 30% of the wedding. And a number that you can't dispute, you don't really know what it means, and then everybody ends up thanking you effusively, because they're like the 30% that they love the most, that was me.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:37)
Yeah, if you wanna make an estimate, 20, 30% chance is, you can't go wrong. Friedberg and Sacks are with us, the Don.
Sacks, you had a lot of clandestine meetings here. Are we any closer to peace in Ukraine, Russia? I saw you talking to some Russian emissaries. You've been on the continent for a full month. Tell us, how much-

**David Friedberg** (2:55)
Where did you go for 12 hours yesterday, Sacks?

**Jason Calacanis** (2:57)
Yeah, I know that you've been on some of these crazy yachts out here trying to broker peace. How close are we? And how are you enjoying your time in Europe this summer?

**David Sacks** (3:04)
I don't think we're too close, but let me say a word about this happy couple here. So Natalie is brilliant and unstoppable. Chamath is superficial and plastic. So this was like the wedding of Oppenheimer and Barbie.
And in that analogy, Chamath, you're Barbie.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:25)
Yes, absolutely. Lots of substance and fire over here and complete narcissism and plastic over here.
Also the genitalia, the same size they can. Very smoothed over, just barely a bump. Yeah, okay.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (3:39)
I'm gonna leave you guys at Georgia.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:41)
Okay, we'll do a show. Natalie, congratulations. We love you, sister.

**David Friedberg** (3:44)
Congratulations.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (3:45)
Thank you, Chekhov, because you celebrated her.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:48)
That's enough, okay, here she goes.

**Natalie Palihapitiya** (3:50)
I wasn't talking about Chamath so clearly.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:51)
Oh yeah, it's okay, cut you off.
Oh, here we go, here we go. What a great, great week we've had here. Lots of friends came in.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (4:02)
Lots of friends, lots of special friends.

**David Friedberg** (4:04)
Lots of poker.

**Jason Calacanis** (4:04)
Lots of friends, lots of poker.

**David Friedberg** (4:06)
Lots of poker players that weren't invited to the wedding, that weren't invited to the poker game. I mean, we walked into the poker game last night and there were all these guys that I didn't see at the wedding.
And you invited these guys to come to your poker game.