E12: Biden wins, Pfizer vaccine, markets rip, Trump's next act, COVID endgame scenarios & more

**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
Hey, everybody, welcome to another All-In podcast. This is an all bestie, no guesty episode of All-In. The last time you heard from the besties, it was election night, and it was a shit show. A fucking crazy shit show. Let's be honest.
I mean, if we go back and look at that historical document, we had moments where we thought Trump was going to absolutely crush.
Then we had moments of confusion. And now here we are. And I think we have to give a couple of bestie kudos to, first off, Chamath, pointing out Pennsylvania was going to be big. And then second, when we went through the possible scenarios of who, what could possibly happen? A big giant blue wave, Trump winning it all, and then maybe something in the middle. Option three came through, and that was...

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:00)
Sacksie Poo nailed it.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:02)
I think that was your assumption, Sacks, the soft landing.

**David Sacks** (1:07)
The soft landing, yeah.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:08)
So why don't we just, for the people who didn't tune in live...

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:12)
Sorry, Jason, can I ask you a question? Sacksie Poo, was that your projection or was it from that guy who lives in his dad's basement, his mom's basement that you brought in your back?

**David Sacks** (1:25)
My researcher. Well, Newman works for me.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:29)
Newman. Newman.

**David Sacks** (1:30)
Yeah. Newman and I worked together on those takes. But yeah, the take that we thought was possible, but probably unlikely, but could represent a really good scenario was the soft landing, where you get a split decision. I think that's what the American people voted for.
The Democratic frame on the election was that we needed a return to normalcy and decency. The Republican frame was that the radical left cannot be trusted with power, and voters basically said they were both right. They surgically removed Donald Trump while thwarting the radical left's dream of total control in Washington.
What the electorate seems to be saying is they want the parties now to work together instead of voting for extreme ideology.

**David Friedberg** (2:15)
But TBD, Sacks, I mean, Georgia is still up for grabs. They're going to go after it hard, right?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:21)
I mean, they filed in Pennsylvania.

**David Sacks** (2:25)
Yeah, so I think there's a series of court challenges we can talk about. I think that they're unlikely to prevail, very, very unlikely. I think Joe Biden will be the next president.
We can compare this to Bush v Gore from 2000 If you want to compare Trump's case to Gore's case, it's weaker in every respect. I mean, first of all, with Bush v Gore, Gore only had to overturn one state, which was Florida, whereas Trump has to now contest and overturn three or four states simultaneously. Second, Gore was within a few hundred votes of Bush. It was extremely close. Trump is no closer than about 12,000 votes in Georgia. That's the closest one.
Third, Gore or Bush never trailed Gore in any recount, and Trump has that problem that he's never, and he's very far behind Gore as well. So you look at those three things and you'd say Gore couldn't overcome it and he had a closer situation than this. Of course, I'd say finally, W had the velvet hammer James Baker working for him, whereas Trump frankly has Rudy Giuliani, who's throwing press conferences in the parking lot of forces and landscaping between a dildo shop and a crematorium. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. I think somebody was tweeting, this is perfect because they were saying they wanted Rudy to fuck off and die. So it was so appropriate that this press conference was held between a dildo shop and a crematorium.
So it's not exactly the A-Team that Trump's got playing for him here in the courts, but.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (4:07)
I mean, David Bossie, by the way, David Bossie who was in charge of the whole thing. David Bossie is not even a lawyer and then he gets COVID, so now he's on the sidelines.

**Jason Calacanis** (4:17)
I mean, just there's so many angles we can take here, including the fact that, am I correct that Trump's campaign advisor got COVID, like the day after or he's not a Mark Meadows.

**David Friedberg** (4:34)
Chief of Staff.

**Jason Calacanis** (4:35)
Chief of Staff got it.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (4:36)
But David Bossie, who's in charge of this whole recount process, got COVID as well.

**Jason Calacanis** (4:41)
Okay. So I want to just shift us now to what could have, so many things went right for the Democrats, but there was also something very clear here that happened, which is the, what I call the HSP, the Hysterical Socialist Party of America, I think was dealt a death blow. If you look, this was very close. And so, you know, even if we want to talk about the Electoral College, et cetera, these are still very low numbers. I believe if the Pfizer News comes out last week, Trump wins, or if any combination of AOC, Biden, AOC, Bernie or Warren were in any way involved in this election process, and Warren pushed to the side, the squad was squashed, because we knew that if they got any kind of play, Trump sells into victory.