Dominik Tarczyński: Trump vs NATO + Europe's Migrant Invasion | PBD #781

**Dominik Tarczyński** (0:31)
Thank you, thank you for having me.

**Patrick Bet-David** (0:32)
Of course, last time we did the election night, you were a star.

**Dominik Tarczyński** (0:35)
Thank you.

**Patrick Bet-David** (0:35)
You and Cenk established a very unique bond together that night.

**Dominik Tarczyński** (0:39)
Yes.

**Patrick Bet-David** (0:39)
A relationship that will be around forever.

**Dominik Tarczyński** (0:42)
I don't think he's very happy about this. Yeah, thank you, thank you very much.

**Patrick Bet-David** (0:47)
How are things? How have you been?

**Dominik Tarczyński** (0:48)
Very good, thank you, busy. We had our own election, presidency, winning, and yeah, better and better. I can't really complain.
There are things going on around the world and in Europe, which are not the best and we need to fix a few things. But from our mind, personal, and point of view, I think we are doing better and better. I know that you have a rough time in the US. I can see the vision, the MAGA movement, and I see different views, and people are unhappy about some things. So it's a lot of things going on in Europe as well, which are connected to the US. I'm very happy about it.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:33)
How do you see that in America? When you're seeing the MAGA movement, there's different things being said, how do you process yourself as an outsider?

**Dominik Tarczyński** (1:41)
Okay, so I'm not going to give you my political opinion yet.
I had so many things to say. I was thinking, what should I say? How do I see things before we met, right? I was on the way from Miami. We stopped for a burger. I'm not going to say the name of the company. We stopped for a burger and the lady was so nice and happy. How are you? Are you from Poland? This and that. Beautiful.

**Patrick Bet-David** (2:11)
She doesn't know who you are.

**Dominik Tarczyński** (2:12)
She didn't know. And then she went, oh, what's the name for the order, right? We don't do that in Poland.
Some people would say that they have privacy. Some people, they do, but mostly in Poland, we don't do it. So I went with a joke. Donald Trump and her face changed suddenly in a way I cannot even describe.

**Patrick Bet-David** (2:33)
Good or bad?

**Dominik Tarczyński** (2:34)
Really bad.

**Patrick Bet-David** (2:35)
Okay.

**Dominik Tarczyński** (2:36)
Really bad. And then I thought, we're not fighting with the flesh.
And when someone is trying to criticize Mr. Trump, I always will tell this story. Her face was kind of demonic. I'm serious. It's hard to describe. So I don't think she was a MAGA movement. Definitely not. But what I meant by this story, I think we forgot and many people in MAGA movement forgot what was this fight about, how happy, how beautiful this day was. I remember election night with you. Everyone was so happy. And we've got this year or two when people forgot that we could have Biden or Kamala in power. And we would have demonic laws in US. You can criticize President Trump for many things. You might disagree. But from my perspective, the scale of unhappiness and criticism, it's just a way to forget about what we fought for. And I think that, I wanna say that just in the beginning, President Donald Trump is the best president of the United States in history.
And I know that many people will disagree. I don't care. I think he's the best president in history of the United States. He cares about his country, about the US. And he's the great example for any other leaders around the world to take care of their own. You see, when he started the NATO disagreement, right?
Everyone was like, oh, why he wants to leave?

**Patrick Bet-David** (4:35)
Back in the days.

**Dominik Tarczyński** (4:36)
Back, but that was...

**Patrick Bet-David** (4:36)
And eight years ago.

**Dominik Tarczyński** (4:37)
Yes. When he said very basic thing to Germany, you're spending 2%, you should spend 2% on NATO, as we agreed, instead of spending money on illegal migration.
Everyone in Europe was shocked. How can he ask to pay what we agreed for? So he pushed them to do things they should do for years. So I don't understand criticism when what he did, what he said about NATO is true. How can you be upset that he doesn't want to be your private bodyguard? You, your taxes are on NATO, and in some way, indirectly, your taxes are financing illegal migration in Germany, instead of NATO, that's a fact. Why would you pay for it? It's not your country, it's not your policy, you don't like it. You pay a lot of taxes, and then Germany is not paying 2%, but they are paying for the hotels, for the illegals. It's ridiculous. So, what we see from the end, and I'm saying this as a European, as a Polish, sorry. So, I can't understand why would you expect from President Trump and American citizens to pay for NATO, when you do not pay what you agreed in a treaty. It's ridiculous. It's not fair. But what is told and what the picture is from this disagreement, is Trump wants to leave NATO. No, Trump wants to change NATO, and he knows how to do it. He's a businessman, we know, he know how to negotiate. It's not about winning, it's about being equal, equal rights, equal duties. So, I can't understand. And whenever I see disagreement within MAGA, I'm just, you know, I'm just watching, like tweeting or whatever. And I'm like, my God, you don't even know how happy you are having President Trump. You do not know, you already forgot. You forget that we could have Biden or Kamala. I just, Kamala was giving a speech yesterday, I think, about the backbone of Democratic Party. And she was obviously referring to the one race.