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**John Coogan** (0:01)
Welcome to Technology Brothers, the most profitable podcast in the world. We have some breaking news. It's Monday. It's still early. The market isn't even closed, but the game is over for Brother of the Week. We're giving it to Luke Farator. Luke's been on the show before. Easy pick. Jordy's traveling. We're doing our first remote live stream. Hang with us. Leave us some notes in the comments. If you notice something off, producer Ben will help us out, try and get it squared away. But we had to give Brother of the Week to Luke Farator. You might know him as a Scrolls Decipherer. He worked with Nat Friedman on the Herculaneum Scrolls story. We will be doing a deep dive on that later this week. But congratulations to Luke, your Brother of the Week. Just epitomizing what it means to be a Technology Brother.

**Jordi Hays** (0:50)
An absolute dog.

**John Coogan** (0:51)
An absolute dog. Let's go through some of the posts.

**Jordi Hays** (0:55)
Yeah, and to be clear, to be clear over the weekend, this was definitely stirred up a little drama because quite a number of people were blatantly attacking Luke and a couple of his peers, specifically for their age.

**John Coogan** (1:13)
Oh yeah.

**Jordi Hays** (1:13)
Which is funny given that the founding fathers were, many of whom were around the same age.

**John Coogan** (1:21)
Totally.

**Jordi Hays** (1:21)
And of course, they built the greatest country in the entire world. So you would imagine that a couple of young kids, young adult men would be able to fix something as simple as the treasury system. It's quite a lot more simple than founding a new nation. So let's give them some credit, but let's get into the timeline.

**John Coogan** (1:40)
Yeah, this is exactly what I want to see from the government. This is exactly what I wanted to see from Doge. I'm super excited. With all these Elon projects, there's always so much energy, and then there's always a question of, will he deliver on time? Is it going to look different? And is it going to be a bunch of VCs who are in there, and they're just like talking and posting? It's like, no, he found the builders. He convinced them to come in, work really hard.

**Jordi Hays** (2:04)
Two-room duty. Two-room duty, too.

**John Coogan** (2:06)
And it's just exactly what I want out of this, and it's the most bullish signal for America. I honestly feel proud to be an American knowing that Luke is in there today. It's just a fantastic development. I'm super excited. And so get out there. It's war on the timeline. If we're trying to take down our boy, we got to circle the wagons. We got to rally the troops.

**Jordi Hays** (2:25)
Also, John, give yourself some credit because was it mid-2024 or something like 2023 that you were posting something to the effect of a call to action to get this type of individual in the government? Yeah.

**John Coogan** (2:39)
Yeah. I'd been saying for a long time that instead of a presidential age minimum, we need an age maximum. I want a cracked 22-year-old in there chugging red bulls, staying up all night, solving the problems of the government with his absolute voice.
And when you think about what is the real problem with having an octogenarian president, it's, well, yeah, if the, you know, if there's some crisis in the UK or Tokyo, like just flying there, even if you're on a 747, you're going to be exhausted. You're going to be jet lagged, but you aren't if you're built differently, like a 19-year-old, and you can just shake it off.

**Jordi Hays** (3:15)
Yeah, you're sleeping on an eight-sleep for two hours a night. It's equivalent of 10 hours on a regular mattress. And you got some white monsters loaded up, maybe the Matina Yerba Matos, and you're going to go.

**John Coogan** (3:29)
Yeah, this is exactly what I want for solving the government's problems. And also, I mean, Luke is like perfect for this because you think about what was the Herculaneum Scrolls project. It was a ton of really dense data that needed to be analyzed in a novel way, and it needed to be zoomed out and looked at broadly and holistically, but then also analyzed rigorously with the best machine learning tools that are available.

**Jordi Hays** (3:54)
And that's exactly what he's actually a comically perfect fit for the role, especially because I'm sure a lot of the data that they have to handle is in physical paper form, right? And so, yes, I'm imagining it's not you're not just processing all this sort of digitized data, payment information, things like that. But but yeah, I'm sure they're building software to sort of analyze both the physical and digital sort of structure of the entire Treasury Department. Yeah, and I hope that they I hope that they sort of attack this first and then move on from there.