DOGE kills its first bill, Zuck vs OpenAI, Google's AI comeback with bestie Aaron Levie

**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
Jay Cal, what just happened? Did you just have a moment? An emotional moment? I don't know. I've been trying to get over Sacks, and it's hard to get over your ex. Even when they didn't treat you well? We were in a co-dependent relationship, and we were working on it. You have no one to fight with anymore. Who are you going to fight with, Jay Cal? That's emptiness you feel inside, because you're a fighter, you're a street brawler, and you have no one to brawl with anymore. So you feel a little- Well, you're the first guy to jump under the table in a bar fight. There you go, there you go, as I was saying. It's always worse to start a fight. If shit goes down, I feel like Sacks and I would have like, we would have thrown down, we were bulldogs, we would have fought like tooth and nail.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:39)
Okay, I have this image. It's like we're in a bar, okay? And all of a sudden-

**Jason Calacanis** (0:46)
You talking to me?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:47)
A fight is about to break out, four thought bubbles appear, okay?
Jay Cal's like, let's go get him. Sacks is like, this guy's a dipshit, let's roll. I'm like, look at that chick, she's so good looking. And then Friedberg's like, what will happen to my invite to duck?

**Jason Calacanis** (1:06)
Friedberg's like, how do I get out of this unscating? Strike that dick.
All right, everybody, welcome to the number one podcast in the world. With me again today, for better or worse, your Sultan of Science, David Friedberg is back. How you doing, Friedberg? I see you're a pawn. Only a pawn in their game. What's going on with the pawn background? The imposter syndrome. Pawn or queen? What is that from? Is that from a movie?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:54)
What movie is that from?

**Jason Calacanis** (1:54)
It's called The Imposter Syndrome. Bye. Just like some French new wave I'm not aware of.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:00)
This is how I've learned that Friedberg's background is some like weird secret communication language. There's a small but fervent group of people that are really into these backgrounds. They're always trying to figure something out.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:12)
Absolutely. Of course, with us again, Chamath Palihapitiya, your chairman dictator. How are you doing, Chamath? Nice to meet you.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:19)
Thank you, sir. Good to see you. You ready? Excited to see you.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:23)
I know. Look at this. Three or four Besties will be hitting the slopes.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:26)
Three or four Besties will be skiing together. Aaron might be there.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:28)
Aaron, where are you going for the holidays?

**Aaron Levie** (2:31)
Oh, actually, I'm, we'll be in next week.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:34)
What?

**Jason Calacanis** (2:34)
Well, there you go. New, Bestie and...

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:36)
Aaron, are you staying in the town?

**Aaron Levie** (2:38)
Just at the hotel.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:40)
Okay, this is perfect. We're all going to be there, bro.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:43)
It's $2,000 a night. How many rooms you got with the kids and the fam? You have three?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:46)
Bro, boxes at all-time highs. Take it easy.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:49)
What did you do? Did you start buying Bitcoin with your treasury? What do you mean boxes at an all-time high? Are you doing a Michael Saylor or something?

**Aaron Levie** (2:57)
You know, it turns out if you were, if you didn't get crushed during the post-COVID period, you can just keep cranking. So that's what we've been doing.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:06)
Oh, you've been building a real business, of course, with us now. Our new fifth Bestie, Aaron Levie. He is the CEO of the publicly traded company Box, which means he's got the most to lose by coming here. So welcome back to the program. Centrasex.

**Aaron Levie** (3:21)
Based on what you guys were just talking about before this recording started, I have no idea what we're in for.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:27)
Yes. Listen, we're living in an age of meme stocks and people selling convertible notes to buy Bitcoin for their treasury. And then becoming a NASDAQ 100 It's that simple. Aaron, when you see a company buy billions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and get added to the NASDAQ 100, what method of suicide do you think of taking your own life with?

**Aaron Levie** (3:49)
There was a brief week in 2021 where the thought kind of crossed my mind.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:56)
Sapuku, you're just going to use the sword, the short blade?

**Aaron Levie** (3:59)
We have a very sophisticated audit committee that prevented the action. Will you do this for me?