Does Tim Ferriss Dream In Japanese? - Rabbit Hole #3 - #1105

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
British supremacy in messaging services, we need to try and get everybody to use WhatsApp. The superior messaging system, and Americans refuse to use it. Do you know what I think?

**George Mack** (0:09)
We was talking about this earlier as to why Americans don't use WhatsApp more. One of the theories is that America had free SMS before anybody else.
So us Brits had to pay. How much did it used to be for a text back in the day?

**Chris Williamson** (0:24)
15p maybe?

**George Mack** (0:25)
15p.

**Chris Williamson** (0:26)
10p. 10p.

**George Mack** (0:27)
That would ramp up very fast.

**Chris Williamson** (0:28)
But that was why people used to use elite speak, right? That was why you was there, like LY because you were trying to snap everything to under 160 characters.

**George Mack** (0:36)
Yeah. I once when I was 14 years old, had my first ever girlfriend and we would text and we would text and we would text.

**Chris Williamson** (0:44)
You fucking bankrupted yourself.

**George Mack** (0:49)
My dad comes down one day and you know when you have like A4 that you'd stack in a printer, he just drops that on the phone bill and had wrapped up about 800 pounds.

**Chris Williamson** (0:58)
Itemized bill.

**George Mack** (0:59)
Text messages, yes.

**Chris Williamson** (1:01)
That's a lot of sexting at 14

**George Mack** (1:03)
I then sent her one final text which was, can't do text anymore, let's do calls. So we did calls all the time.
Next month, so I had to pay off about 1200, 1300 pounds of debt to my father.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:16)
Still paying it off.

**George Mack** (1:18)
Payment plan.

**Chris Williamson** (1:19)
Dad, you're cock blocking me.

**George Mack** (1:20)
So that's how WhatsApp.

**Chris Williamson** (1:21)
14, I'm trying to get my cred up. But yeah, WhatsApp's the superior. Tim uses WhatsApp. Tim's good on WhatsApp.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:27)
I mean, look, I use every new inbox that is slowly eroding the sanity of everybody who's listening to us.

**Nirav Sanjani** (1:35)
Did you guys see the Nikita Beard tweet a long time ago? It feels like, he said something like, every time I use WhatsApp, it feels like I landed in another world country.

**Chris Williamson** (1:44)
You're allowed to say that.

**Nirav Sanjani** (1:45)
Okay, fair enough.

**Chris Williamson** (1:46)
You're allowed to say that.

**Nirav Sanjani** (1:47)
But no, I'm really- We race swapped Sean.

**Tim Ferriss** (1:49)
I drop on Long Island. I think I'm allowed to say it too.

**Chris Williamson** (1:51)
Race swapped Sean for you.

**Nirav Sanjani** (1:52)
Fair enough.

**Chris Williamson** (1:53)
That's the primary reason.

**Nirav Sanjani** (1:54)
I think I'm sitting in the same spot too.

**Chris Williamson** (1:55)
That's correct. People are like, Sean, you lost weight and the beard's gone.

**Nirav Sanjani** (1:59)
This is the designated seat for the minority.

**Chris Williamson** (2:03)
You grew up on Long Island. I didn't know that. Why?

**Tim Ferriss** (2:06)
Oh yeah, way up at Montauk. Back when there were potato farms-

**Chris Williamson** (2:10)
That explains a lot.

**Tim Ferriss** (2:10)
That has changed. There are other nightclubs that make all the locals crazy, but yes.

**Chris Williamson** (2:14)
So is that beyond the Hamptons?

**Tim Ferriss** (2:16)
Yeah, Montauk is the end of the line. So if you take Long Island Railroad out from New York City, it will end in Montauk. And it was perfectly fine place to grow up. I didn't realize how strange it was until I got older.

**Chris Williamson** (2:30)
Why is it strange?

**Tim Ferriss** (2:31)
Well, when you're growing up, what is around you is normal because even a reference point. But you're growing up in a location where you have a barbell of income and wealth distribution, right? So you've got all of the, let's just say the broad Hamptons that people know, which would have like the $100 million homes on the beach and all these famous directors and financiers and little white shorts playing tennis. And then you have, on the other hand, like affordable housing. When I was growing up, like crack epidemic in certain parts.
So I didn't realize how much was missing from the middle of the whole thing.

**Chris Williamson** (3:07)
Okay. Have you ever seen Micky Mantle's questionnaire answer on the 50th anniversary of the Yankee Stadium?

**Tim Ferriss** (3:17)
I feel like this is the kind of question my dad would ask me. He's like, do you know Henry Rubenstein from 1839? I'm like, no, of course I don't.

**Chris Williamson** (3:23)
Micky Mantle describes in basically a yearbook for the Yankee Stadium. It's the 50th anniversary of Yankee Stadium happening.