Did This Man Just Expose the Silicon Vally Tech Mafia? - Ryan Breslow, Founder of Bolt

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
All right, there's this amazing book called Getting Everything You Can Out Of All You've Got. I read it a few years ago and it changed my life.
And the reason I loved it was because it basically talks about how to get and make more money using things that you already have.
Coincidentally, today's podcast is brought to you by Business Made Simple. It's a podcast by Donald Miller, who I'm gonna tell you about in a second, but he has this amazing episode that's all related to this book and the things that I learned in this book. It's called How To Make Money With What You Already Have. It's an incredible episode. It talks about all the stuff that I learned in this book. The host is Donald Miller. I didn't know who Donald Miller was up until recently, but over the last 12 months, this is totally by coincidence. It was all separate people. They said, you have to check out Donald Miller. He's amazing. So I'm happy that he's part of HubSpot's podcast network. You can check it out, Business Made Simple Podcast. It's where he coaches you on how to build your business like an airplane, where the cockpit is your leadership, the body is your overhead, the right engine is your marketing, the left engine is your sales.
You have to check it out. This guy's amazing. It's called Business Made Simple with Donald Miller.

**Ryan Breslow** (1:02)
My motivation here was to open people's eyes to what goes down in Silicon Valley, where it's not all sunshine and rainbows. It is very fierce and there's fierce competition and there's also games that are played with powerful institutions and, you know, groups of people who help each other out.

**Sam Parr** (1:38)
Thank Don't, chickens have two wings?

**Shaan Puri** (1:41)
But it's not their actual wing. Hey, what's up, Ryan?

**Ryan Breslow** (1:44)
What's up, Shaan, Sam?

**Sam Parr** (1:45)
What is it?

**Shaan Puri** (1:47)
Dude, you can settle this for us. So, Sam, this is Ryan, he's the founder of Bolt, and we're just going over this detail. Are chicken wings actually the chicken's wings, or are they just like the ribs of the chicken?

**Ryan Breslow** (2:02)
I think they're the wings.

**Sam Parr** (2:03)
What's a drumstick?

**Shaan Puri** (2:04)
You mean they're the actual wings? I feel like they're not the wings.

**Sam Parr** (2:07)
Yeah, Shaan, this is like such a stupid conversation. Of course they are. Like, what's a drumstick? Is a drumstick a leg?

**Shaan Puri** (2:15)
Powerful young Ben. Ben, look that up. So you see if I'm right. I think I'm right.
So we should switch gears. Okay, so Ryan's here. I met Ryan in, where were we hanging out? LA, okay, I was in LA. I'm at this dinner, and Ryan's across the table from me. And at this dinner, everybody kind of like dressed up because the dinner was at the owner of an NBA team's house.
And most people are pretty dressed up. I see this one guy who looks like, I'm like, is this a TikTok star? Like, who's this guy? He's got earrings. He's got this tie-dye shirt on. He looked totally different than every other kind of like business schmuck at this thing. And I was like, oh, what's up, man? Like, what's your... I was like, I'm literally in my head. I was like, this guy's definitely a TikToker or a YouTuber.
He's got this charisma about him. I feel like that's who he is. And he's like, no, I'm Ryan, I started a payments company. I was like, what is it? Bolt. And I was like, oh shit, I know Bolt. That's amazing. And we ended up becoming friends, ended up investing in the company. And you ended up getting Twitter famous over the last few months, my friend. And I wanted to have you on to talk about a couple things.
You've done some pretty impressive stuff at a young age. I want to talk about, I want to give people the background of that. And then you currently have some spicy Twitter shit going on. I want to get your take on some of those things.
Welcome to the show. I don't know if you've ever listened, but we have a very casual business show.

**Ryan Breslow** (3:40)
Yeah, it's a pleasure to be on, Shaan. I've been looking forward to doing this. And I think we picked the perfect time.

**Shaan Puri** (3:48)
And Sam, what do you know about Ryan, besides what I just told you?

**Sam Parr** (3:51)
So I was Googling you. So I saw your Twitter come out of nowhere about a month and a half ago. And Shaan told me all about Bolt. And he told me about this dinner that he had. And so Bolt is a payments company that is at like $11 or $14 billion in valuation. So it's a huge company. What I know is that you look incredibly young and on your bio, maybe on LinkedIn or something, or maybe Twitter, it says that you've started two or three companies that are worth about a billion dollars, including a bunch of crypto stuff. And when I was Googling you today, one of the first images that comes up, it's beautiful because you're tweeting about mobs and mafias.