Did Jesus Fulfill Prophesy?

Dan McClellan (0:00)

As much as I love the holiday season, we all know that it can be an incredibly stressful time, and particularly as our families grow larger and connect with other families, there are more and more people that are brought into that whole gift-giving responsibility. And unfortunately, I've always been the financially irresponsible one in our household, which has been the perennial lament of my wife. And during the holiday season, it's really easy to lose sight of your money and financial responsibility this time of year. It can be stressful for a lot of people, it can put a lot of stress on relationships. If you want to keep your finances under control this holiday season, you need to be using Monarch, rated Wall Street Journal's best budgeting app of 2025 Monarch is the all-in-one personal finance tool that brings your entire financial life together in one clean interface on your laptop or your phone. And right now, just for our listeners, Monarch is offering 50% off your first year.

Dan Beecher (1:03)

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Dan McClellan (2:00)

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Dan Beecher (2:46)

You're saying they couldn't find the clit, eh? I'm just going to say that's delightful.

Dan McClellan (2:55)

Look, they were hiding. They were up under a cleft.

Dan Beecher (2:58)

It's not always easy to find. It's not their fault.

Dan McClellan (3:04)

Oh, gosh. It's a good thing my wife doesn't listen to podcasts. Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (3:16)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (3:17)

And you are listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How are things today, Dan?

Dan Beecher (3:30)

Riding high, just having fun, getting out into the world. No, not right now, right now I'm just sitting. From the comfort of your apartment. Podcast studio, we're coming to you live from Data Over Dogma studios here in...

Dan McClellan (3:49)

In lovely downtown Salt Lake City.

Dan Beecher (3:51)

Salt Lake City, Utah.

SPEAKER_3 (3:52)

All right.

Dan Beecher (3:53)

I'm fine, how are you, Dan?

Dan McClellan (3:56)

I'm doing all right. I'm getting over my post-SBL, what do they call them, con cruds? The con crud, yes. The convention sickness that I pick up, always manage to pick up usually probably in an airport on the way home from...

Dan Beecher (4:14)

I think they call it conclave, is what they call it.

Dan McClellan (4:18)

They made a movie about that, didn't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, other than that, it's a lovely-ish, very cold day here, but the sun's out at least, I guess.

Dan Beecher (4:29)

Yeah, man. And you know what I hear? I hear those sleigh bells jingling, ring-ting-tingling, too. It is, for us now, in this part of the temporal plane, the holiday season.

SPEAKER_3 (4:44)

Yeah, it is.

Dan Beecher (4:46)

Others may be listening, you listener at home may be catching this a different time of year, but for us right now, it is the holiday season. And so, as is our won't, or want, if people want to get weird about it, we're going to talk about Jebus and his birth.