Deebo & Joe - Part 2: REACTION to AJ Brown trade to Patriots + OBJ RETURNS to New York

**James Harrison** (0:00)
Hey, man, listen, man, meanwhile, look here, man, the Patriots traded for the Eagles wide receiver, AJ Brown, in a blockbuster deal, man. Blockbuster deal. GM Howie Roseman, he said, I think he felt that for his family at this stage of his career, it was something that he was desiring, that he was looking forward to.
And in all our conversations, he was very positive about his experiences in Philly. Just felt like going forward here was something that he preferred.

**Joe Haden** (0:38)
Huh?

**James Harrison** (0:39)
No. Look here, man.
Yeah, that's just goofy. He just talking, he just running his mouth. He said he wasn't gonna go get, he also said that he wasn't gonna give AJ up for nothing. I feel like you gave AJ up in this for like, for minimum.
Like, well, also you got, AJ was, you know, he was, he didn't really want to be there. He made it known that he ain't really want to be there. So it was, you know, it was probably kind of hard for them to get the maximum, you know, amount of capital for him, considering that he had already put it out there. Like, yo, I ain't trying to be here. I don't want to be here. Y'all ain't using me correctly. You know, all that, you know. How you think it's gonna look for AJ over there? You think he go, he go regret going there? You think the Patriots may regret maybe getting him or how you think that's gonna work out beautifully?

**Joe Haden** (1:30)
I think since he played for the coach before, he was always, he was in the last situation with Philly. You know what I'm saying? And I know getting towards, he's getting a little older in his career. So now it's like, it's more what you gonna do. And I think with Drake May, with him being with the coach already before, knowing that situation, they already were down there in the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? We're in the Super Bowl. So you're coming to a team that's already locked in, already good enough to go. So you don't want to come in there throwing off no bad vibes. You want to come in there as a number one receiver, helping out your young quarterback and try to help them to win the Super Bowl. So with me and being able to play with that coach before. So with me, I think it's a good trade. I think the Patriots, they're doing some stuff like the Rams. You're trying to, you know what you're a little bit away. The Patriots receiver last year, they had Stefan Diggs, but they didn't really have no guy that I felt like they could just get open on one-on-one, one-on-one coverage. So I think with getting him to the team, being able to help out Drake Mayday rookie quarterback, I mean, the younger quarterback, I think it's going to be super big for them. So a shout out to the Patriots.

**James Harrison** (2:39)
I think, yeah, I think the Patriots did a good job. And I just, I feel like, I really feel like if they, well, they couldn't, but Philly could have gotten, I feel like they could have got more for him, but they obviously couldn't get more because of all the dynamics of how he dealt with the stuff, especially publicly and how he wanted to get away, catches reading the book on the sideline, doing stuff like that, dude. And with him already having a relationship with Vrabel from over there in Tennessee, I think Vrabel obviously must or thinks at least he has a good understanding and relationship with him that he feel that this is not something that would happen over at the Patriots.

**Joe Haden** (3:26)
It feels like their relationship is good enough.

**James Harrison** (3:29)
Yeah, yeah, you know, they show.

**Joe Haden** (3:31)
And I'm to the mindset of I'm effed in picks too, honestly. I like, that's why when the Browns is building it, that's for the future, that's hit or miss. You gotta make sure you hit on who you pick. It could be bust. So that's why when the good teams, that first round pick, I see Trent McDuffie with my own eyes. I see AJ Brown. He's done it in the league. You know what I'm saying? So you don't know, oh, they can grow. They can get cool. That's why Jared Verst. At the same time, we got a first round pick for him. But Jared Verst is two years in, two Pro Bowls.
That's a first round pick. If you can get him in the first round, I would want Jared Verst in the first round. So sign me up for that. So that's why I'm more in the favor. If you're a good team and like these picks are good, you know what I'm saying, but if you need a quarterback, it's more like, boom, I need that. Or you want to go specifically at somebody. But if you can go look at a free agent and these dudes that are kind of like coming up on their, like coming up on their first contract, coming right out of their rookie deals, and you see one that you like, and you know, I'm going to go get a baller here. Go get that so you know that you don't have to, there's a chance that if he hits, then we're good. You're not just sitting on that. I'd rather have a guarantee. Oh no, I know McDuffie, I see tape. He can guard number ones in the NFL right now. You go draft somebody. Oh no, his speed. He looks good, man, at South Carolina. Man, he's getting bust out here. You know what I'm saying? So like, dude, what happened? We dropped him in the seventh round. Oh, I mean, the first round, what happened? Yeah, so you can go get Nick Herbich, fourth round picks. You start getting those and like, now, would you rather trade him and get a first round pick for Nick Herbich? Yes, because I know now that Nick Herbich wasn't a fourth round pick. I've seen him, he deserves to be coming for a first round pick. So when dudes start looking at players like that, if you hit on those picks, then it's good. If you miss on those first round picks that ended up being somebody you thought was going to be nice, they're not as good. That's why I'm with those. Oh, I see Nick Herbich.