Decoding The Secrets Of A Meaningful Life - Jimmy Carr - #953

**Jimmy Carr** (0:00)
This is a big deal for me because I listen to the show so much. I absolutely love it. I slightly could fanboy about the whole thing. I really love what you do. I love this show. I'm nervous about it because I kind of go, well, normally it's an expert for something to say. And I'm like, oh, I've got dick jokes if you need them.

**Chris Williamson** (0:21)
Will that do? Why are you such a fan of it?

**Jimmy Carr** (0:24)
I don't know. I think the breadth of the subject matter.
And I think that thing of going, there's a lot of, it's that signal and noise. There's a lot of noise out there. And I love the idea that I listen to this show and even stuff that I'm, oh, maybe I wouldn't read that book, but I'm interested in listening to them for an hour and a half or two hours. And then oftentimes it's something where someone says something and you go, wow, that's brilliant. I've got to go and look at their channel or I'm going to go and find something. So I'm using it almost kind of as your research as a resource for me. And I think a lot of people talk about diet and exercise, and they talk about how it makes them feel and they're eating right, and they're staying away from processed foods and they look fantastic. And then you ask them what they're watching and they go, yeah, I'm watching Love Island, but like the old series and I'm smashing through it. And I don't know if you're aware of Love Island, but it's for terrible people doing terrible things. I mean, the idea that you go that information diet is such an important thing of like, I think you said it here where you're sort of a, if you tell someone the last five podcasts they listen to, it's a pretty good read on who they are and what they want to do. And I love, the other thing I love about this show is I think it's got, it's aiming up. Everything seems to be like the way that you conduct interviews and the way that you engage with people, it seems to be you're trying to bring the best out of them, which I like anyway. It's very positive to listen to. But it's also like everyone you have on is trying to make your life better. It's very well-intentioned as a show. I think it's terrific. And the transformation in you, I think, has been sort of extraordinary. The journey to this is just kind of amazing. When I see you, I mean, I genuinely got quite emotional with the Naval Ravikant thing because I knew what that meant to you. And as someone who's a big fan of podcasts and a big fan of, suppose, Modern Wisdom in the broader sense as well, but someone like Naval who's done maybe five or six podcasts ever, and one incredible burst of wisdom on Twitter, you go, it's Slim Pickings if you're a fan. He's the JD Salinger of the podcast world. And then you get him on the show and it's like, I felt like that was the- is that your Mount Rushmore completed?

**Chris Williamson** (2:53)
One more, Rogan. So it was a Mount Rushmore, but then I realized there was five, so it's more like Thanos' glove with the different infinity stones. So it was, before I started, Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Alain de Botton and Naval Ravikant. That was before I started the show. Those were the five I wanted and I've got four.
After the last episode with Rogan, I woke up the next day as you have today with still the anxiety of, well, I hope I didn't put my foot in my mouth too many times, and so on and so forth. He texted me and was like, love the show yesterday, man. Like always a pleasure to sit down. By the way, we still need to get a buck a date and bring me on the show. Him on. So he's self-invited. So I'm like, Joe, give over. I've got so many other people to speak to. But yeah, there's definitely a little bit of a sense of like gold medalist syndrome, where I think, fuck, what do you do when you've completed the things that you said that you were here to do? I imagine that that must be the same in your industry as well. When I can start selling out theaters, when I can start selling out arenas, when I can start selling out stadium, when I get the Amazon Prime deal, one egg, well, we've got to run it back for season two. I've got to ensure that it wasn't a fluke. I've got to do it twice. That's the problem.