De-Globalization Is Forcing Nations Worldwide To Choose A Side | Michael Every artwork

De-Globalization Is Forcing Nations Worldwide To Choose A Side | Michael Every

Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart

August 27, 2026

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Speakers: Michael Every, Adam Taggart, Mike Preston

Topics: Investing, Business

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**Michael Every** (0:56)
There's going to be an emerging nexus around US markets, US tech, US finance, US stable coins on one side, or you can work with Iran on the other. It's up to you.
Now, we all know which countries are going to be targeted by that. It's a short, short list, and some of them are very large countries. But we're aware of what that binary means. So that's then looming as a larger scale issue, which is really potentially going to pull the rug out from underneath a lot of people.

**Adam Taggart** (1:34)
Welcome to Thoughtful Money. I'm Thoughtful Money Founder and your host, Adam Taggart. Today, we've got the very great pleasure and good fortune to be sitting down in discussion with the one and only Michael Every, Mr. Mercantilism himself.
There's a lot going on in the world about the things that Michael had been predicting for well over a decade. It has been proven totally right in spades about it all. Now, I can think of really nobody better to give us an audible real-time call on what exactly is going on right now. Michael, there's a lot of things I want to talk about with you specifically.
Iran, some of the recent actions in the US., all sorts of geopolitical developments. But I think your interest is more in talking about all of this at the 30,000-foot level and trying to take all these disparate pieces of what's going on in the world and try to unify them into a master outlook over it all. I would love nothing more to hear that too. I think our viewers would be really interested in that. Is it okay if we start there?

**Michael Every** (2:47)
Please, that would give me great pleasure.

**Adam Taggart** (2:50)
We will do that. Just a quick apology. Michael has been kind enough to sit down first thing his morning over there in Asia to have this conversation with us. It's late my time or later my time than I normally record. You're getting me straight from the gym, Michael. If my hair looks extra disheveled, that's why and I apologize.
But with that out of the way, I'd ask you what things have your attention most right now, and feel free to start there if you like. But however we can most expeditiously get to your unification at the 30,000 foot level, let's get there as fast as we can.

**Michael Every** (3:30)
Sure.
Let me then try and summarize this. I'm sure everyone watching is fully cognizant of the fact that the US. Treasury Secretary, Basant, has recently introduced what he himself is describing as a treasury version of Operation Twist, where he's increasing buybacks relatively small scale, but symbolically very significant of off-the-run, longer duration US bonds, which are going to be funded by the issuance of more T-bills.
I presume everyone's completely on board with that because it moved markets a lot of the time.

**Adam Taggart** (4:12)
I think, Zahary, one quick question for you. I agree this feels and looks very much like a Treasury Operation Twist.
You would put that under the umbrella of yield curve control, correct?

**Michael Every** (4:26)
Not 100 percent. It's moving in that direction.
This is still technically shifting of securities to the shorter end of the curve, which by the way, of course, is what we saw under Yellen previously, a Treasury, and of course, is what you see in many emerging markets who can't manage their debt profile. So that in itself is significant with those two parallels. I'm sure you'll have a long line of other guests who can talk about that in more granularity than I can being based in US and possibly even trading those markets directly. But what I want to add is that when you look at what is happening around the world at the same time, you can see that I think it's not operation twist, it's special military operation twist.

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