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David, Special Operations Sniper

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

June 13, 2018

This week’s conversation is with David (leaving his last name out for security purposes.) He's been a top special operations sniper for more than 10 years. David has four combat tours in support of Operation Enduring Freedom Afghanistan and one tour in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Speakers Michael Gervais

TopicsSelf-ImprovementEducationHealth & FitnessMental Health

SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

You know, a lot of guys, especially younger, would, you know, how many people have I killed? But I find the most gratifying effect is how many people I've saved. How many lives have I changed?

That's way more important to me.

Michael Gervais (0:26)

Welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast. I'm Michael Gervais. And by trade in training, I'm a sport and performance psychologist and the co-founder of Compete to Create. And the whole idea behind this podcast is to learn from people who have dedicated their life efforts towards mastery. And what we're wanting to do is dig to understand the mental skills that they use to build and refine their craft, but also understand the psychological framework that they operate from.

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Now, this week's conversation is with David, and I'm leaving his last name out for security purposes.

He's currently a green beret and special operator. His craft is that of a sniper. Let's just leave it at that. And he's been at this level for a long time, over 10 years. And he has four combat tours, just to give some context, in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan, and one tour in Operation Iraqi Freedom. And during the last 20-some years, he served in a variety of leadership roles that include fire team leader, senior weapons sergeant, tactics and weapons instructor. And he's done it at the elite level.

And David's won countless awards along the way, including sniper competitions. That's his craft. He's good at it. He wins in competitions, and obviously he's winning in the amphitheater of war as well.

And when I asked him how, he does attribute much of this to his mental game. And this conversation is a treat. He understands the inner experience. He understands how to access to be able to do his craft at a consistent high level. And we get to learn from someone who's truly on the razor's edge. You know I talk about it. You know how much I value it. The razor's edge where things could go wrong, but you're right at your capacity and you're executing at a high level. And he's putting his life on the line. That is something that we need to pay attention to in this context. We talk about what goes through his mind in the most pivotal moments where everything is at stake, including his and others' lives around him. And we discuss the difficulties that come with transitioning back and forth between combat and everyday life. And all of us are in transition at one point or another. This conversation is for all of us. If we want to understand our capacity and get right to the edge, we need to learn from people who have been there. And that's what this conversation is about. He gets into his addiction to adrenaline and how he manages dealing with that, as well as some of the most difficult sights and sounds that he's witnessed. It's a beautiful conversation.

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