David Icke, Conspiracies & Cuddle Club - Michael Malice - #159

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Hello, people of Podcastland. Welcome back. My guest today is podcaster, speaker, author, and my new best friend, Michael Malice. For those of you who don't follow us on Twitter, me and Michael have had a bit of a bromance going on since our first episode a couple of weeks ago, and we've been speaking pretty regularly, having some interesting conversations, so we thought, why not just record one? So this is it. It probably listens quite a lot like the catch-up episodes that I do with Jonny and Youssef. No real agenda, but we get to talk about a lot of cool stuff that's been going on recently, including David Icke getting banned from YouTube with Brian Rose's London Real, what it feels like for Michael to be in New York City when there's essentially no one on the streets. We actually even get into fitness, diet, training, motivation, mindset, talk about a lot of stuff. In other news, the podcast backlog is getting pretty hefty now, and I joked around last week about doing three episodes a week, but that genuinely might be where we end up, because otherwise guests are just going to be waiting for months for their episode to go out, and I don't want that to happen. So yeah, Richard Schotton, Bruce Duckworth, who is a graphic designer that created the Amazon logo, also does the design for Coca-Cola, Metallica, Burger King and McDonald's. He's been on Zach Tellander, Coach ZT, one of the best weightlifting channels on all of YouTube. He's been on recently DJ Fat Tony, a man who spent a million pounds on drugs across his career, George McGill coming back on to do Mental Models 103 So there is a lot to be excited about coming up, and if me and Dean decide to pull the trigger on it, you may very well have three episodes a week. Anyway, it's time for Michael Malice.
Michael, motherfucking Malice in the building. How are you?

**Michael Malice** (2:09)
Hi, brother. Yeah, good to be here. Governor, I think I saw you.

**Chris Williamson** (2:12)
Good to see you, Governor. How are you?

**Michael Malice** (2:14)
Yes, brother.

**Chris Williamson** (2:18)
So I feel like we need to bridge the gap between our first episode and this one, because this is like someone watching season one of Michael and Chris, and now watching season five of Michael and Chris. And there's a whole bunch of narrative that's gone on. Now we both, we're living together. We own a dog. I've met your parents. I'm considering proposal, all that sort of stuff.

**Michael Malice** (2:42)
It's been five seasons.

**Chris Williamson** (2:45)
Season five is getting serious, man. So I want to ask you, what have you learned since we've been friends?

**Michael Malice** (2:52)
So it's funny. I'm going to answer that question in a second. I just finished reading this book, which is called Gumpshan Island, which is a forgotten book. It came out in 1956 by Felix Morley. He was a Pulitzer winner. He was the first one to win a Pulitzer for the Washington Post. He was one of the founders of the Mount Pelerin Society. He later became a prominent anti-war right-winger. The book takes place, basically the premise is, there's this community in Maryland, in America. They're hit by the Soviets with a weapon and they're thrown back in time to the dinosaur era. What's amazing about this book, there's all sorts of action that happens off-screen, like you were just mentioning. And I'm reading it, I'm like, did I miss something? Like the Russian character marries the daughter of the other prominent character. And you only find this out when they're like, well, ever since you guys get married, I'm like, wait, they were never even dating.

**Chris Williamson** (3:45)
The ceremony, yeah.

**Michael Malice** (3:47)
They were never even dating. One of the kids is eaten by a pterodactyl, and it's never mentioned again. I'm like, hold on, isn't this a problem when children are being eaten by anything? And then there's this whole subplot where the bankers in this community want to have a coup and basically seize control. And like five pages later, it's like, well, ever since we had to impeach blah, blah, blah, I'm like, wait, the coup failed? Like, it's so crazy reading like this. So what have I learned since we've been friends? You and I probably chat on a daily basis at this point, I think. You're probably the closest person in my life who I've never met.
And I think, you know, we come at life from probably different perspectives but similar wiring, very, very different life experiences, but a similar approach being extreme intensity, intellectual curiosity, pride, yet self-awareness, I think. Maybe we all fail in some of those, maybe not others. So I think one of the things I have, well, you've given me some fitness advice which has been very useful. But I mean, since this, we became pals, it's this mates, I think they say over there, this whole virus thing, you know, obviously hit. So that's obviously thrown a number for all of us. You know what, the one thing I've learned, I would say, if I had to put the one thing, is that I have a bigger, this is going to sound pompous and I don't care, I have a bigger audience than I realized and that there are people who, when I do crap like this, it actually gives them something to do. So, I better get off my ass and do it. I don't have the space to be kind of in hermit mode.