Dana White on UFC controversies, freedom of speech with Ryan Clark, the White House event, response about Michelle Obama, Conor McGregor, fixing boxing, health battles and digging out of the lowest points

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
Hey babes, it's Paris Hilton. So I was checking my points balance in the Hilton Honors app the other day, and yeah, I've got about a billion, which feels excessive, even for me. Just kidding, you can never have too many Hilton Honors points. And I wanna do something iconic this summer, so I'm giving away all my Paris points. Just find somewhere you've always wanted to stay, then go to my socials or Hilton's and tell me about it. Just make sure you're a Hilton Honors member, and I might be sending you Paris points, because when you want points that make your summer even hotter, it matters where you stay.

**Ryan Clark** (0:30)
UFC CEO Dana White is back for round two on The Pivot, and this conversation doesn't pull any punches. From why he believes there'll never be another superstar like Conor McGregor to his unfiltered reaction to the Shakur Stevenson jumbotron controversy, Dana opens up on everything that's making headlines. He addresses the historic White House fight card, and he responds to Josh Hockett's comments about former First Lady Michelle Obama. He also asks fans not to judge his foray into boxing until the end of the year. He explains why he's the kind of leader who runs towards the fire when everybody else is running away. And then there's this story that you probably only heard a little about. Dana shares his most unforgettable White House Correspondents Dinner moment, and it's a behind the scenes tale you don't wanna miss. Trust me, it's as wild as you might think. No scripts, no filters, just Dana White. Back for round two on The Pivot, with me, Freddie T and Chan.

**Dana White** (1:50)
I'm actually, I'm gonna try one of these pivots. What is this? Energy drink?
Not that you ever look bad, but you look great.

**SPEAKER_1** (2:01)
We tuck our shirt in around here, and he ain't white.

**Channing Crowder** (2:03)
Y'all professionals, I'm not a shirt tucker.

**Dana White** (2:05)
Yeah, me and Dan White, we tuck our shirts, you know what I'm saying? Oh, thank you.
I'm a yo-yo, so I fluctuate. Sometimes I tuck and sometimes I untuck.

**Fred Taylor** (2:16)
It's got all the good stuff in there, all right? When did they drop those?

**SPEAKER_6** (2:21)
They didn't.

**Fred Taylor** (2:22)
You see that, don't you?

**SPEAKER_6** (2:24)
I'm looking at the Travis Scott's. I'm like, when did they drop those?

**Dana White** (2:26)
I always say I got more Travis Scott's than Travis Scott.

**Ryan Clark** (2:29)
You remember when we were in the closet, though, when we were at the spot, though. You know, he got everything. Dana, man, round two.
You know what I mean?
It's longer than five minutes, like, in your sport, but the second time we get an opportunity to sit with you. Welcome back to The Pivot. This is Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor, and Ryan Clark. Pivot fam, thank you for pivoting with us. So recently, right, I see that you start to give out jobs on the night of the fight, right? You can be a ring girl on the night of the fight, stuff like that.
I want to apply for the job of being the person that can actually identify the celebrity before we put them on the screen.

**Dana White** (3:00)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I would. You're hired.
You're hired. Let me tell you what. We're having a whole overhaul going on right now in the production truck and how that works. And it's just, you know, I just feel like we've been so bad at this for so long. And I haven't paid it like, all right, let's say first of all, you know, when you have any type of celebrity and you go to a show and they start putting you just like, man, I'm here. I just want to relax tonight and enjoy and be a fan of something and enjoy. And then, you know, they're coming and putting a camera in your face. And one of the things that I think we are horrible at is like, we'll show them on and they'll be like, hey, or whatever. And then there's this like awkward 15 more seconds where we're staying on the fucking guy and the guy just sitting there.
There's an art to this and we haven't fucking figured it out yet. Then I pay all this fucking money for Shakur Stevenson, bring him out, he's doing all this PR and shit and we put him on as a fucking OKC basketball player. It's just like, I haven't been that mad or freaked out that bad in a very long time. And it's the second time it happened.