Topics: Society & Culture, Health & Fitness
**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Hello everybody, welcome back to the show. My guest today is Jocko Willink. He's a retired United States Navy officer in SEAL Team 3, an author and a podcaster. Finding discipline in the modern world is hard. A hyper-convenient existence rarely encourages radical responsibility or extreme ownership. Thankfully, Jocko has spent an entire life learning how to love discomfort and also teaching others how to love it too. If discipline equals freedom, then Jocko must be one of the freest men on the planet. Expect to learn what Jocko thinks about the Detroit self-defense guy, why discipline always beats motivation, the similarities between elite special forces and elite Brazilian jiu-jitsu athletes, Jocko's opinion on Jordan Peterson, how to get over an ex, whether he regrets being famous after working in the shadows for so long, how he used a Jim Carrey impression to chat up his wife, whether he wants to try psychedelics, and much more. This was a lot of fun to record. I flew out to San Diego with the entire production team, and it's just so special doing these big episodes with people like Jocko or Huberman or Jordan Peterson or whatever. It's such a dream to be able to travel around and create something that I genuinely think is special. So I really, really hope that you enjoy this episode. It took a lot of effort, a lot of planning and a lot of investment as well to get it to look and sound the way that I wanted it to and the guys just nailed it. So sit back and enjoy this one. And if you're new here, hit the subscribe button. There are some even bigger guests coming later this year and you're not gonna wanna miss them. In other news, this episode is brought to you by Athletic Greens. You are not eating and have fruit and vegetables in your diet and you know it. And this is going to help. One scoop of Athletic Greens contains 75 vitamins, minerals and whole food sourced ingredients including a multivitamin, multi-mineral, pre and probiotic, green superfood blend and more that all work together to fill the nutritional gaps in your diet. It increases energy and focus, aids with digestion and supports a healthy immune system all without the need to take multiple products or pills. If I was only going to take one supplement, it would be this. It covers so many bases. It means that if I haven't nailed my diet during the day, I feel comfortable. I've got some nutritional insurance coming through from Athletic Greens. It's lifestyle friendly whether you eat keto, paleo, vegan, dairy-free or gluten-free, and it contains less than one gram of sugar without compromising on taste. There is also free shipping, no matter where you are, a 60-day money-back guarantee so you can buy it and try it for 59 days, and if you do not like it, they'll give you your money back, plus a year's free supply vitamin D and five free travel packs with your first purchase. So go to athleticgreens.com/modernwisdom to get all of the above, the 60-day money back guarantee and the free vitamin D and all of that stuff, plus free shipping. That's athleticgreens.com/modernwisdom.
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