Coach for SpaceX & OpenAI destroys your limiting beliefs for 88 minutes straight

Joe Hudson (0:00)

I had this experience of, I am one with everything and everything is good. It was like getting hooked on heroin. I was like, whatever the f*** that is, I'm obsessed.

Shaan Puri (0:19)

I'm excited to have you here, Joe. Welcome to the podcast. I don't know if you know what this podcast is all about, but basically, the people who listen to this podcast are very much like me and Sam.

We're business junkies, we're entrepreneurs, we're perpetually always starting things, but also students of the game. I was trying to learn. You've done many things. You started your life story in 10 seconds. It was like punk rock kid to discovering an entire area of wisdom to go work in. You've been in the business world as a VC, and now you coach some of the highest level players of the game. You are one of the coaches to some of the top CEOs and entrepreneurs in the game, including Sam Altman and some other friends that we were talking about before we started. We're really excited to have you here.

Sam Parr (1:02)

Are you able to name drop at all? Can we give you like 10 seconds just to brag?

Joe Hudson (1:06)

The names that I can drop are the ones that are on the website. I find that it's better if you all name drop for me than me name drop.

Shaan Puri (1:13)

We've seen Mark Pincus, we've seen Sam Altman, we've seen Eric Thornburg, F.

Joe Hudson (1:18)

Williams, I think. Ev is a good one. Yeah.

Stacey, Philpott, Brown. She was head of Google India and ran TaskRabbit.

Sam Parr (1:28)

Is there specialty like type A high achievers that just need a little bit of help? Like how do you summarize the, you're starting here and you end up here?

Joe Hudson (1:38)

No, I really like to have a variety of people, like all sorts of people. The only thing that I think all the people that I work with have in common is they're ambitious. Only some of them are maximalists, but they're all super ambitious.

Sam Parr (1:52)

What's a maximalist?

Shaan Puri (1:53)

I don't even know what that is. Yeah, what's a maximalist?

Joe Hudson (1:56)

Maximalist is someone who's like, I want it all right now and I can get it all right now. I would put like Sam Altman in the maximalist category. Any limitation that a normal person would see, they're just like, no, we can figure out how to do both.

Sam Parr (2:10)

Is that achievable?

Joe Hudson (2:12)

No, I don't think it's achievable entirely, but I think that much more is achievable if you think that way, right? So the limitation like limiting beliefs are like hold us back dramatically.

Shaan Puri (2:23)

Let me ask you a question about limiting beliefs.

I had never heard this phrase till I went to a Tony Robbins event and then he started explaining it and then I started seeing it everywhere and myself and my family members, different people, where we tell ourselves these stories. Can you talk a little bit about this? Because I think it's pretty universal.

Joe Hudson (2:41)

Yeah, the idea of a limiting belief outwardly is just any thought process that you have holding you back and so I'll give you one that probably everybody has experienced. They have some sort of transformation, something happens, and then they ask themselves, will it last? That's a great limiting belief.

Because all that really is is just a whole bunch of anxiety presenting itself as a thought process for you to believe. And instead of saying like, oh, every learning that I've ever had ebbs and flows, like I've totally learned stuff and then I've forgotten it and then I relearn it. Or I've been able to make that shot in golf and then I can't make it, but then I learn to make it over time that there's this natural pendulation of learning that occurs. And so the ebbs and flows are actually good because that is what learning is. Instead, it's, oh, I might lose this thing. And then they have a moment where they've lost this moment of transformation, and then they go, oh, I've lost it, which is a second limiting belief. So that would be like a very common limiting belief that people have.

Or they're like, they're on a diet and they're like, will I be able to maintain the diet? And then they have that one piece of chocolate cake and they're like, oh, well, I couldn't maintain the diet.

Sam Parr (3:53)

Right.

Joe Hudson (3:54)

As if they couldn't like just have the piece of chocolate cake and then go back to the diet.