**Mike Krieger** (0:00)
You're watching TBPN.
**John Coogan** (0:02)
Today is Monday, September 29th, 2025 We are live from the TBPN Ultradome, the Temple of Technology, the Fortress of Finance, the Capital of Capital. A lot of people have been asking, was the TBPN Ultradome built by human beings? It just looks like something that humans don't know how to build anymore.
**Jordi Hays** (0:21)
Kind of like a boss civilization.
**John Coogan** (0:23)
It's possible. We haven't confirmed it, we're not commenting.
**Jordi Hays** (0:25)
It just appeared here one day.
**John Coogan** (0:30)
I'm just asking questions. I just want to dig into it a little bit further. That's why we have free speech.
**Jordi Hays** (0:35)
A lot of people have been afraid to ask that question.
**John Coogan** (0:38)
Yes.
**Jordi Hays** (0:38)
We're here saying with you, we also-
**John Coogan** (0:41)
Yeah, we also have questions.
**Jordi Hays** (0:43)
It showed up one day, we went off the air. We showed up the next day, there was this dome shape, almost a monument to entertainment and capitalism.
**John Coogan** (0:52)
Yeah.
**Jordi Hays** (0:53)
Just appeared overnight.
**John Coogan** (0:54)
Where did this come from?
**Jordi Hays** (0:55)
Where did that come from?
**John Coogan** (0:56)
We're getting some claps from the team.
**Jordi Hays** (0:59)
Team is fired up. Best day of the week, most underrated day of the week.
**John Coogan** (1:02)
Something that was built by humans, rant.com.
**Jordi Hays** (1:04)
True.
**John Coogan** (1:04)
Time is money, save both, easy to use corporate cards, bill payments, accounting and a whole lot more, all in one place. Most underrated day of the week.
**Jordi Hays** (1:10)
I think Monday is potentially the most underrated day of the week.
**John Coogan** (1:13)
It really is. You're fresh.
**Jordi Hays** (1:14)
So much excitement, optimism, you're back. You've never been more back than on a Monday. First day of the work.
**John Coogan** (1:20)
Friday is the day of being over. It is so over.
**Jordi Hays** (1:23)
It's so over. And Monday, we're so back.
**John Coogan** (1:25)
You're so back. Yes, it's perfect. Well, continuing, we're going to talk about Dorkesh on Sutton, some AI stuff, some other AI stuff, the AI, meta AI app, vibes, people, the reaction. I think this came out on Thursday, and then the reaction happened on Friday, for the most part. We talked about it a bunch, debated it. Naval said-
**Jordi Hays** (1:48)
Fired shots.
**John Coogan** (1:49)
Creation without a creator is meaningless. And I think it's an interesting post because I kind of disagree with this. So I think when I open up the Meta AI Slop app, the Vibes app, they shouldn't have called it Slop. It would have been so funny.
**Jordi Hays** (2:03)
It would have been-
**John Coogan** (2:04)
It would have been-
**Jordi Hays** (2:05)
Or Trough.
**John Coogan** (2:06)
Trough would have been good too. Just lean it all the way.
**Jordi Hays** (2:09)
Our new feed called Trough in Meta AI app.
**John Coogan** (2:12)
It's already a feed. You're feeding.
So when I open the app and I scroll it, I don't think it's creator-less. I think that there is a creator. It's David Holes. David Holes is the one that created the mid-dreamiest app. It's a feed with one creator. One creator. And I'm down to look at it for 10, 15 minutes. And then I'm kind of done. I didn't feel the urge to open it up over the weekend for any other reason than research and just understanding the platform a little bit more. I wanted to know if you got past the first pre-scripted 15 shorts, or I guess Vibes is what they're calling them. Like would I see UGC? Would I see other stuff? Would I see people in my network? Would the 4U algorithm have taken hold by them? I didn't notice anything like that. There were a couple of accounts that were like, this person's clearly into monsters. So they do really big monsters. Or this person does POV dogs driving cars, which honestly was awesome. I think that happens.
**Jordi Hays** (3:09)
Monkeys on jet skis, dogs driving horse cars.
**John Coogan** (3:12)
Dogs driving cars. Yeah, although some of the renders were really rough, where it was like the dog was at the wheel, but then the front of the car was behind the dog, so it didn't get it right. But it was still fun. And it was funny, I noticed it was... The one that I enjoyed the most was one of the Golden Retriever like jumping and chasing the camera with this wave going over it. But what made it really special was that the song that was paired with that was, who let the dogs out? Who, who, who, who let the dogs out? And it made me realize that like there is a little bit of a game mechanic to the app, where if you have a song that you like, you can now go and basically direct a short form music video for it. And so if there's a song that you think is fun, you can go into the MetaVibes app and start with the song in mind instead of layering the song at the end. The default flow is image prompt, animate it, then add a song.
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