Claude Code Ends SaaS, the Gemini + Siri Partnership, and Math Finally Solves AI | #224

Peter Diamandis (0:00)

Claude 4.5 is making waves.

Alexander Wissner-Gross (0:02)

That is game changing.

Vlad Tenev (0:03)

Opus 4.5. It is actually incredible.

Dave Blundin (0:06)

It's the best in the world of coding.

SPEAKER_5 (0:08)

Claude Opus 4.5 is the greatest AI model I've ever used.

Salim Ismail (0:12)

I've been talking to a few of my ex-friends, developers from Yahoo, and they're literally like, how do I get my head around this? This is unbelievable.

Dave Blundin (0:19)

The future of the world belongs to flexible companies, Salim style, exponential organizations that can pivot and improve constantly.

Peter Diamandis (0:26)

Only the paranoid survive. It's official. Google is going to power Siri. Gemini on iPhone changes the physics. We move from a search box that gives information to a magic box that gives action. Is the website going away?

Alexander Wissner-Gross (0:45)

I want to speak directly to the elephant in the room. The elephant in the room that I perceive is...

Peter Diamandis (0:54)

Now that's a moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

Everybody, welcome to Moonshots, another episode of WTF Just Happened in Tech. I'm here with my moonshot mate, Salim Ismail, the emperor of AI, AWG, our resident genius and DB2, the architect of AI investments. We're here to prep you for the future and get you ready for what Elon calls the supersonic tsunami coming our way. Before we start, two things I want to say. First, a huge thanks to all of you who come week to week to listen to this episode. It means the world to us and thanks for your comments. We read all of them. Those of you who haven't subscribed yet, please do. We're now putting out as many as two episodes a week. You don't want to miss one. The speed of change is hyper exponential. So gentlemen, good to see you all. I miss you. Dave, where are you today?

Dave Blundin (1:43)

I'm at Davos, the World Economic Forum. Donald Trump just arrived in town, so you have the longest Uber rides you will ever experience in your life. Actually, you know, there are 3,000 people with machine guns lining the roads. Not exaggerating. It's quite a sight to see. Are you seeing drones in the air? Yeah, there's actually radar at the top of the mountain, which is really cool. It's huge, like real radar. And then in the valley, they have drone coverage just to protect the airways. Also, what's amazing to me is a lot of the foreign leaders will come in and there's no flat space to land in this entire town, so they land on a frozen lake.

Wow! I mean, it's well frozen, so I think it's OK.

Peter Diamandis (2:26)

You sent some beautiful photos, the mountains behind you. I hope you have some really warm clothing. My last WEF, World Economic Forum venture was one of cold tolerance.

Dave Blundin (2:37)

Well, I'll tell you, the sun is out. It's absolutely beautiful and it's about freezing. The top of the mountain is 10,000 feet, so the sun just comes blaring through when it's a beautiful day. So it's pretty spectacular.

Peter Diamandis (2:50)

Alex, how about you, buddy? Where are you?

Alexander Wissner-Gross (2:52)

I'm in Liechtenstein, slowly making my way to Davos. Liechtenstein has become something of a commuter village, if you will, commuter country for Davos, but looking forward to seeing Dave and everyone else in person tomorrow at the event.

Peter Diamandis (3:07)

Amazing.

Dave Blundin (3:08)

Not just seeing us, you'll be on stage. Yeah, you're gonna be a star tomorrow.

Alexander Wissner-Gross (3:12)

I hope.

Peter Diamandis (3:12)

You're on your secret mission in Liechtenstein as usual?

Alexander Wissner-Gross (3:16)

Change of scenery, Peter, change of scenery. Let's not use the V word. All right.

Peter Diamandis (3:19)

No, V word. Okay. I'm not sure what that word would be. Maybe vacation. But no, I mean, listen, you're producing seven days a week, 25 hours a day. So the AI amongst us. Salim, where are you, pal? That's an unusual curtain behind you.

Salim Ismail (3:38)

I'm hiding a big electrical panel. I'm in the Golosano Foundation meeting with about 15 hospitals getting together where he's donated huge chunks of money for pediatric things. So how do you collaborate and create a hub for all of them to get transformed? I'm in Fort Myers, Florida, and I came out of a snowstorm in the Northeast. So I'm very happy to be here right now.

Peter Diamandis (4:03)

Welcome to the sunshine. Let's jump in. I was going to hit two major events going on to open up the conversation, give people a sense of what's going on in the world. The first is CES and the second is the World Economic Forum. A little bit of a recap. I just got back from CES last week. It was a madhouse as usual. I looked at my steps and it's like on Tuesday and Wednesday, four or five, 6,000 steps. On Thursday, 28,000 steps, which gives you a sense of the extent that I measured this. 148,000 attendees, 4,000 exhibitors, 1,200 startups. It was a madhouse and I'm going to hit on just one major theme here, which was the Cambrian explosion of robots. This year was all about robotics. I'm going to play some background videos here. First were robot hands and the second were humanoids.