Chelsea Wolfe | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

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Chelsea Wolfe (1:10)

I think the main thing is just people calling the music demonic or something, which is like, to me, it's like such a basic thing to say.

Billy Corgan (1:19)

It's like, here but not here, seen but not seen.

Chelsea Wolfe (1:23)

Energy fields that are not just the physical, and then also it really comes back to like sleep and dreams for me.

Billy Corgan (1:30)

It's a people's music voice directly to the heart.

Chelsea Wolfe (1:34)

I've always been like a very intuitive person, and I've always just kind of felt like I could trust that.

Billy Corgan (1:39)

I love your guitar playing.

SPEAKER_1 (1:41)

Oh, thanks. I think you play so great.

Billy Corgan (1:42)

Oh my God.

Chelsea Wolfe (1:43)

Thank you.

Billy Corgan (1:44)

You strike me as so naturally adept at it.

Chelsea Wolfe (1:47)

I used to be very susceptible to cults, honestly.

Billy Corgan (1:49)

Susceptible to cults, there you go. There's the headline.

Chelsea Wolfe, thank you for being here. Nice to see you today.

Chelsea Wolfe (1:58)

Yeah, nice to see you too. Thank you for having me.

Billy Corgan (2:00)

Thank you. So let's start with the existential question of the day. Is an artist's journey the creation of a new self, or is it finding the true self?

Chelsea Wolfe (2:13)

I kind of like the new self answer, honestly.

Billy Corgan (2:16)

Yeah.

Chelsea Wolfe (2:16)

I feel like you can find your true self in the new self.

Billy Corgan (2:19)

When you were young, did you feel like you knew yourself?

Chelsea Wolfe (2:24)

Kind of in the way that I've always been a very intuitive person, and I've always just kind of felt like I could trust that. So I don't know if it was very conscious, but I do think there was something intrinsic. Yeah.

Billy Corgan (2:37)

So how would you describe yourself as a kid?

Chelsea Wolfe (2:40)

As a kid, I had a big imagination. I was kind of always off in daydream land, always creating something, whether it was a little village in a tree trunk or writing poetry.

Billy Corgan (2:54)

Was this encouraged by your parents, this kind of creativity?

Chelsea Wolfe (2:57)

Yeah. My parents were also both creative. My dad was a local musician, and my mom was, I mean, they were both working class, but in their free time, they were creating gardens and paintings and things.

Billy Corgan (3:12)

And at some point, they split or just- but the point I'm asking is, did you kind of grow up in different- so is the grandmother, there's mom and dad's house, were you in the rotating between these homes type of thing?

Chelsea Wolfe (3:25)

Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I focused on my grandmother's house a lot because that was the place where I felt most sort of nurtured as the creative daydreamer, you know?

Billy Corgan (3:35)

Do you think she figured it out early?

Chelsea Wolfe (3:37)

Yeah. And she was also in a phase of her life where she was learning about like naturopathic medicine and aromatherapy and things like that. So it was like the perfect time for me as a kid to be sort of playing in these realms.

Billy Corgan (3:51)

Yeah. When your parents split, was it a positive or a negative type of circumstance? I mean, I don't mean why they split. I'm saying because I grew up in broken home situations, so it's like everybody hated each other.