Topics: Society & Culture, Health & Fitness
**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
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But now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Brian Klaas.
What is the chance story of the atomic bombs targeting?
**Brian Klaas** (4:42)
Well, so this story starts in 1926, and it's where a couple goes on vacation to Kyoto, Japan. And Kyoto is an incredibly charming city. It's a place where this couple sort of looked around. They recorded a beautiful day of sightseeing in the man's diary. And 19 years later, this man from this couple turns out to be America's secretary of war. His name is Henry Stimson.
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