Catch Up 102 - Rome, Greggs & Flat Earth - #062

**Chris Williamson** (0:00)
Hi, friends. I hope you are well and are fully strapped in for today's episode as me, Jonny and Yusef deliver Catch Up 102 The first episode went down fantastically and it's nice to have the opportunity to just talk about whatever we want to without an agenda, without a topic, and get a little bit more of our lives across, as I know a lot of you are interested in that. So today we are learning about Yusef's bad experience at Gregg's with his brother. Jonny nearly being abducted by a man into a white car. My holiday to Rome. What else we learned about Flat Earth and the recent Flat Earth documentary that's gone out. You're going to get to hear our thoughts on that. Whether or not Elon Musk is a press genius or just someone who looks a bit awkward on camera and an awful lot more. Coming up soon, I've got James Clear, author of Atomic Habits, Professor David Sinclair, one of Time Magazine's top 50 influential health professionals in the world. The guys from Inside Tracker, three episodes with the guys from Social Chain, Rachel Kleinfeld on the state of the global government. There's so many episodes. I was going to ask for feedback about how the Monday, Thursday podcast publishing split was going, but you're just going to have to put up with it because I have too much stuff to get out. I hope you're enjoying it and as always, if you have any feedback, at Chris Willex on all social media. But for now, please welcome Jonny and Yusef.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Jonny and Yusef from propanefitness.com are here again. Catch Up 102, it went so well last time that we're gonna do another one. Just talking about whatever-

**Jonny** (1:57)
Just catch him up.

**Chris Williamson** (1:58)
Whatever the fudge is going on.

**Jonny** (2:00)
Catch him down.

**Chris Williamson** (2:01)
The first thing, the first thing which is going on is for the listeners at home who aren't watching on YouTube, you are missing out. My belated birthday present is adorned across my chest. And it is-

**Yusef** (2:10)
Glorious.

**Chris Williamson** (2:11)
This lovely soaring t-shirt.

**Yusef** (2:13)
You like the sun being honest of- Plane. Plane.

**Chris Williamson** (2:20)
It's a soaring t-shirt. It's got the logo from the soaring on it.

**Yusef** (2:25)
Aeroplane. Yeah.

**Chris Williamson** (2:27)
Like.

**Jonny** (2:27)
No, man.

**Chris Williamson** (2:29)
What's that got to do with it?

**Jonny** (2:29)
Because it's a plain soaring. It's not the chocolate one or the banana one.

**Chris Williamson** (2:33)
This could potentially be banana though. It's the same colour logo.

**Jonny** (2:36)
It's not. It's the same colour logo. Stop kidding yourself, Chris. That is the plain soaring.

**Yusef** (2:40)
For anyone that doesn't understand this, Chris' idea of a pre-meal snack is an entire soaring malt loaf of extremely dense, it's like the closest thing in food terms to a brick, and a kilo of yoghurt just dipped in. Oh yeah, easily.

**Jonny** (2:59)
Quite a lot of compression.

**Chris Williamson** (3:00)
You need to wait for them to air, wouldn't you? Air rate and then you know they get a bit harder.

**Yusef** (3:04)
It'd be so weatherproof, though, like it would stand all weatherproof.

**Jonny** (3:06)
So that means it's a cake, not a biscuit.

**Chris Williamson** (3:13)
Biscuits feel soft.

**Yusef** (3:15)
So there's a story that every forensic accountant loves to tell because it's the only...

**Chris Williamson** (3:20)
Jaffa cakes.

**Jonny** (3:21)
Yeah.

**Yusef** (3:21)
Can you relay that?

**Jonny** (3:23)
Oh God, I'll probably get it wrong. So you charge VAT on biscuits but not cakes because biscuits are seen as a luxury item. Cakes aren't.

**Chris Williamson** (3:34)
Because birthday cakes are a necessity.

**Yusef** (3:36)
Because of the Queen.

**Jonny** (3:37)
I think because cakes used to be made from leftover necessity foods.

**Chris Williamson** (3:43)
Okay.

**Jonny** (3:43)
Whereas biscuits aren't. I think this is right. I'm so sorry if it's wrong.

**Chris Williamson** (3:46)
This is just some like artifact of a time gone by.

**Jonny** (3:49)
Well, it's just the way that the threes are classified. Biscuits are... Cakes are...

**Yusef** (3:53)
Erzvahs are going to be like, ah, Jonny.

**Chris Williamson** (3:56)
Jonny. Do not.

**Jonny** (3:57)
So Jaffa Cakes were like, wear a cake, mate. We don't pay VAT.

**Chris Williamson** (4:03)
Fuck on me, yeah.

**Jonny** (4:04)
And then they were subject to the biscuit cake test, which was that biscuits go soft.

**Yusef** (4:12)
When left to their own devices.

**Chris Williamson** (4:13)
And what do they do?

**Jonny** (4:14)
They go hard.

**Chris Williamson** (4:15)
Unbelievable. So if you can develop a biscuit that goes hard.