Can we defend against AI hacks? | Dozie Anazia

Dozie Anazia (0:00)

You're typing on your computer, the AI is able to know what keys you're hitting. The pitch from where the location of the key is on your keyboard can give away your password.

Reid Hoffman (0:10)

Finance employee joined a video call with people who looked and sounded like the company's CFO and colleagues, and then transferred 25 millionish dollars.

Parth Patil (0:18)

You should now, like, this is now the world we live in, where you can't really trust real-time video, and someone can put your face on, someone can wear your voice, kind of like a mask. The Token Grantee program gives $1,000 a week of tokens to high-potential creators already deep in AI, across film, gaming, comics, print and digital art. There are no tool restrictions. The freedom to choose is the point. Grantees also get access to my own custom fleet of agents and an ongoing collaboration with me.

The goal, to close the gap between an idea and the world.

Reid Hoffman (0:54)

Part of this tokens program is showing how AI is kind of revolutionizing creativity, building, and kind of having a variety of folks who are using tokens, tokens to the future, in order to kind of build and to show what they build and to illustrate this for other folks and kind of help see the future. And so I'm doing this with Parth Patil and Parth. I'll hand it over to you to kick off the episode.

Parth Patil (1:26)

Awesome. Thanks, Reid.

So super excited to have you here today. Today we have a really good friend of mine. We have Dozie Anazia.

And we're really excited to have you on the Token Grantee Program, especially because Dozie comes from a slightly different background from everyone else in the program. Dozie's background is in cybersecurity. But we'll get to that. I want to go back to how we met. I think it was five years ago now. I met Dozie on Clubhouse five years ago, yeah, back in 2021 We were hanging out on rooms on Clubhouse, talking about games, talking about science fiction, nerd culture, and then just where the future was headed. So why don't we take people back, introduce yourself, maybe where we were when we met, and then where we are today and what you're up to.

Dozie Anazia (2:22)

Yeah, I think that's a pretty good description. We just randomly met on Clubhouse as one does.

It's 2021 and I don't actually remember exactly where we met. I think we just had the same group of friends and we're talking about software development, AI, data, all the tech stuff. And I think we just kind of like serendipitously like found each other because we both like would use gaming as like a metaphor for a metaphor or philosophy for just everything. Yeah. So I always found you interesting because you did that and I also did the same. So just describing life in gaming, gamify life was like kind of like how we started like having conversations with each other.

Parth Patil (3:17)

But yeah. Yeah. And I think especially as AI came online in 20, CatGPT in 2022 and then GPT-4 in 2023, we were pretty early. Like there's a huge early adopter community on Clubhouse as you know. And we were early to playing with these tools and seeing what code generation was. And I was kind of like, oh my God, we need to unpack this together, right? Like I'm seeing what it does to data analysis, Dozie's in school, studying computer science. So clearly both of our fields are rapidly being transformed.

And yeah, it also, it's like when you find these people, these teammates and you start exploring the unknown, it's so much better than doing it alone. And especially as agents and AI gets more powerful, I think it's really, I find it really helpful to have someone like Dozie around forcing me to reconsider how many permissions I'm giving my agents.

Dozie Anazia (4:14)

So yeah, I was just going to say that it's funny you brought that up too because when I was in school, I think it was like my second to last semester, my professor, I took an artificial intelligence class and that was like 2021 and this was like, he was showcasing open AI and open AI was basically giving you access to like Atari games and then you could just basically put it in your Google Colab notebook or an Anaconda notebook and you just play like Pong or something like that in a web interface. So yeah, I was on open AI like 2021, 2020 So that was my first rendition of it.

Reid Hoffman (5:05)

So by the way, I totally get how you guys are like besties. I mean, it's like all the keywords that I associate with Parth. Like gaming, clubhouse, AI. It's like check, check, check, check. That's totally fucking awesome.