Bring Me the Head of John the Baptist!

Dan McClellan (0:00)

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Dan Beecher (0:05)

You know what, you getting a good night's sleep is important to me too.

Dan McClellan (0:10)

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Dan Beecher (1:09)

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SPEAKER_3 (2:15)

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Dan Beecher (2:54)

Okay, so Shepherd in that case doesn't make any sense.

Dan McClellan (2:57)

Yeah, I imagine they were like, I can picture a mad Shepherd. He got caught beating his wheat, and so he's like, all right, well, I'm gonna beat my sheep instead.

Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (3:15)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (3:16)

And this is Data Over Dogma, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat the spread of misinformation. About the same, how are things today, Dan?

Dan Beecher (3:28)

Things are great, things are great. It's here in Salt Lake City, it's midwinter right now, and couldn't be warmer. Just absurdly, like there's no snow on, in the ski slopes that hasn't been manufactured by humans.

Dan McClellan (3:46)

It's 60 degrees where I am right now.

Dan Beecher (3:48)

Yeah, it is absurd.

Dan McClellan (3:50)

And it's only winter as the calendar flies.

Dan Beecher (3:54)

Yeah, so there's that. I don't know, I'm frankly unclear how I should feel about that, because I don't love snow and cold, but also it portends things.

Dan McClellan (4:08)

Yes, we live in a state where it is critical to certain things, so yeah. We need it as much as we may not want it.

Dan Beecher (4:16)

Yeah, well, and yeah, there's a lot of... The idea of us not having winter anymore is... You know, global warming is a thing. Anyway, we might have to switch to summer Olympics instead of winter Olympics coming up. Who knows? Who knows what's happening? But we are going to do a show, and this week, we're going to start with a fun little chapter and verse or chapters and verses because we're going to talk about the death of John the Baptist, which is a huge deal and really fascinating. I was actually, as I was like sort of combing through this, there's a whole bunch of stuff I didn't really know about it or realize about it, and I think it's really cool, really interesting. And then, we are going to talk about your pastor, or pastoring in general, and what pastored might mean.