Brian Hickerson: Hide & Seek – September 1, 2026

**Drew Lane** (0:00)
Michigan's number one podcast is The Drew Lane Show.

**Drew Lane** (0:09)
Hey, what's poppin? We're rollicking in the deals in the d.com studios. Got a big show today, got some giant breaking news in just a second.
First of all, Hall Financials are presenting sponsor, oh, by the way, the winner at Hall Financials of all their people selling mortgages and refis was a man by the name of Jerry Chen.

**Marc Fellhauer** (0:31)
Oh, great guy. Jerry might be one of the best employees there.

**Trudi Daniels** (0:35)
I've heard good things about Jerry.

**Drew Lane** (0:37)
Jerry, some people are saying that Jerry's loans don't always close, but I don't know.

**Marc Fellhauer** (0:43)
I know who said that, and that person is probably a liar.

**Drew Lane** (0:46)
The person who said that is an excuse machine every time he doesn't win. There's always some crazy. Again, Jim Bentley's math, I don't know.
So yeah, I tweeted out a picture of Jim looking very sour with Jerry Chen smiling. He's got the bobble head. Of course, the winner gets the David Hall bobble head.

**BranDon** (1:05)
Don't cast eyes.

**Marc Fellhauer** (1:06)
Jerry Chen looks like a hard worker over there.

**Drew Lane** (1:08)
He is a hard worker. Busts his ass. He's new. He doesn't have the leads that people like Jim Bentley have, because they've been there so long, so he used to work extra hard. So that's why he's so happy.

**Marc Fellhauer** (1:17)
Jim's so mad right now.

**Drew Lane** (1:18)
So I was very pleased to tweet this out. Congratulations to Jerry Chen. Now in possession of the Stanley Cup of the mortgage business, the David Hall Bobblehead, Jerry dominated the monthly mortgage refi sales competition and may have perpetuated some stereotypes as well. Need a refi!
Go to callhallfirst.com/drew.

**BranDon** (1:36)
Wow, check the first comment. Is there some AI going on?

**SPEAKER_6** (1:41)
What?

**Marc Fellhauer** (1:44)
What's the first comment?

**Drew Lane** (1:47)
Make the guy on the right in the hat crying, Grock.

**BranDon** (1:56)
Somebody made this right here where it's the picture of Jim and he's slapping Jerry. This is inappropriate.

**SPEAKER_6** (2:04)
Oh, oh, oh.

**Drew Lane** (2:07)
We'll have to hope. Yeah, Jim.

**Marc Fellhauer** (2:10)
Oh, I'm reporting this to HR.

**Drew Lane** (2:11)
Elbows, Jerry Chen in the face, and then puts a fist up as he takes the David Hall bobblehead away.

**Marc Fellhauer** (2:16)
I don't even look like him there.

**Trudi Daniels** (2:16)
I know.

**Drew Lane** (2:18)
I'm not sure that's AI. I'm going to have that looked into. Whoever Jim loses to should get to pick out the top 10 topic for that week. Hey.

**Trudi Daniels** (2:26)
Oh, that's a good idea.

**SPEAKER_8** (2:27)
That's a good idea.

**Marc Fellhauer** (2:28)
Let's go, Jerry. Way to go, Jer.

**Drew Lane** (2:30)
And then Captain Cass. Yeah, I do business with the smart looking Asian guy over that tatted white trash.

**SPEAKER_8** (2:35)
Oh, my.

**Drew Lane** (2:39)
Wow. Jerry.

**Marc Fellhauer** (2:45)
That's all I'll call today.

**Drew Lane** (2:48)
He's referring to the comment I made about perhaps perpetuating some stereotypes.
Um, yeah. Jim is such a loser. Some people are saying that Bentley really took it on the Chen this month.

**Marc Fellhauer** (2:58)
Oh.

**Drew Lane** (3:03)
Classic Jerry, says Sean.

**BranDon** (3:06)
Jerry rules.

**Marc Fellhauer** (3:08)
Let's get Jerry on the show.

**Drew Lane** (3:09)
Does anyone know what song was playing when Jim found out he lost?

**Marc Fellhauer** (3:16)
Jim's soundtrack to his life.

**Drew Lane** (3:19)
Jerry Chen kicked a 45-yard field goal.

**Trudi Daniels** (3:21)
Oh, he at least attempted.

**SPEAKER_10** (3:23)
Oh, he found the song.

**Marc Fellhauer** (3:26)
When this was playing.

**Drew Lane** (3:31)
No, Jim's got a soundtrack to his life. Tells us all the time.

**Marc Fellhauer** (3:34)
Soundtrack to his life.

**Drew Lane** (3:36)
He does. What song was playing when the child was coming out of cake?

**Marc Fellhauer** (3:41)
The Dog Days Are Over, I think, by Florence and the Machine.

**Drew Lane** (3:45)
I think he plans some of these songs, because he would have you believe that Florence and the Machine was just playing as the baby's head came out of Kate.

**Marc Fellhauer** (3:53)
Yeah, you think he timed it?

**Drew Lane** (3:55)
He's a Florence and the Machine fan, isn't he?

**Marc Fellhauer** (3:57)
I think he likes them, yeah.

**Trudi Daniels** (3:58)
I think she has some agency in that as well.

**Drew Lane** (4:02)
I don't know, in terms of the soundtrack of their life. I haven't heard about Kate's agency. I hear a lot of songs Jim likes.