Bernie Demands the Labs Stop, Wall Street Turns GPUs Into Bonds, Grok 4.7 Takes #1 with Emad Mostaque | EP #279

**Peter Diamandis** (0:00)
Bernie Sanders sent a formal letter to the CEOs of Anthropic, Meta and OpenAI.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:04)
AI capabilities have reached a critical threshold. Pause AI development.

**Emad Mostaque** (0:11)
The cat's out the bag, it's too late, right?

**Peter Diamandis** (0:14)
NVIDIA just announced a partnership that redefines what GPU compute means as a financial asset.

**Dave Blundin** (0:20)
This is like the very first pitch or the first inning of the build out of the Dyson swarm.

**Salim Ismail** (0:24)
Financial assets want predictable depreciation and exponential technologies don't give you predictable depreciation.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:31)
I'm not as concerned that this will end up being another mortgage backed securities fiasco for a few reasons.

**Peter Diamandis** (0:38)
One is Elon just dropped Grok 4.6 and he's right, it's a banger. Grok 4.5 came out two weeks ago, 4.6 just this morning and 4.7 is rumored to be coming out in two weeks.

**Emad Mostaque** (0:50)
4.7 and this is what I think is going to be really interesting, is going to be trained on all the SpaceX physics and engineering knowledge. You can't get beyond Frontier with this stuff, but what if you have the best engineers?

**Dave Blundin** (1:03)
Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:08)
Welcome back to Moonshots, everybody. We're going to be covering nine stories today that span the frontier from longevity, AI infrastructure, synthetic biology, AI filmmaking, urban air mobility, and oh, by the way, Grok 4.6 is crushing it. The through line is the same as always. Accelerating singularity is compressing the distance between the impossible and the inevitable. We're back this week with the Moonshot quintet.
AWG, our in-house super intelligence. Alex, welcome. Good to see you in your normal haunt.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (1:41)
Good to be super intelligent.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:42)
You are, my friend. Dave Blundin, our investor in AI extraordinaire.

**Dave Blundin** (1:48)
I was over at MIT all day today, hence the garb, but our TechTrek teams just got back from SF and they brought back huge amounts of knowledge and they're all over at MIT ZSale, dispersing it across the campus right now.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:00)
Love it. And Salim Ismail, our empresario of exponential organizations. Salim, where are you today? Still in Toronto?

**Salim Ismail** (2:09)
I'm still in Toronto, heading back tomorrow. I should be going back now, but this podcast happened and I can't fly within like six hours.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:21)
We're going to put a sterling on your hat and have you walk around with it.
And back by popular demand, Emad Mostaque, the embodiment of the Intelligent Internet. Emad, I hope you're reading the comments on the last pod that we did together. People are loving you. Have you seen them?

**Emad Mostaque** (2:40)
Yeah, I did see some of them. I don't normally read the comments. I made an exception and it's very kind what everyone said.

**Dave Blundin** (2:45)
It's great being amongst you guys.

**SPEAKER_7** (2:47)
It is. It works for my American wife. It works for the others, you know.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:53)
Peter Diamandis, your host, your optimism amplifier. Please remember that having an optimistic and abundance mindset is a choice. And our mission here is to deliver data-driven optimism that helps you make that choice. So, guys, last night I was in Utah, at the University of Utah. It was the finals for the $101 million Longevity, or shall I say HealthSpan Xprize. Super psyched. We awarded a million dollars to 10 teams. Recognized another 10 finalists. This is on the March 2, winning the $80 million Grand Prize. We've given away 20 million so far. And the mission of these teams, and, you know, everybody, please get excited about this, is to add 20 healthy years on your life. Asking teams to reverse your functional losses that we get through aging, in cognition, give you the ability to think and have memory, like you did 20 years ago, in muscle, the ability to build muscle like you did 20 years ago, and in your immune system. And it's extraordinary. We had 800 teams enter this competition, every possible approach, from mitochondria to stem cells to gene editing.
It's extraordinary. So this is a competition that will be won by 2030 So keep an eye on this.
Salim, I don't know if you want to jump in on this one.

**Dave Blundin** (4:20)
2020 is infinity, right?

**Peter Diamandis** (4:23)
Yeah, well...

**Salim Ismail** (4:23)
I mean, you know, I think there's the...
Xprize was such a huge inspiration when I was writing the EXO book, because you're reaching outside in, I mean, 800 teams. I think that's a record for the traditional prizes for us, right?