BARD - Charlie Kirk Case: Why the Tyler Robinson Hearing Raised More Questions

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This is Beyond A Reasonable Doubt with your hosts, Mark Geragos and Gary Smith.

**Mark Geragos** (1:11)
DPS, how are you this Sunday?

**Gary Smith** (1:14)
I'm well. How are you, Mark?

**Mark Geragos** (1:15)
Very good. Very good. Are you in FIFA-dom or World Cup-dom or?

**Gary Smith** (1:23)
We're in a bit of a drought now that it's Sunday. Next game is Tuesday, then Wednesday, and then Sunday again. So three left.

**Mark Geragos** (1:30)
Okay. Okay. Got it. And predictions?

**Gary Smith** (1:35)
You know, I think that all the teams, I think they said last night on the broadcast that this is the first time in World Cup history that the FIFA's top four ranked teams have made the semifinals. So I think it would be foolhardy to make a prediction. I wouldn't mind if France won. I wouldn't mind if England won. I was certainly rooting for the Swiss last night. That was a bit of a nail biter. But in the end, Argentina was proved to be too much to handle for the Swiss.

**Mark Geragos** (2:06)
Hold on. I'm having a malfunction here, which I'm going to change. There we go.
I figured you better than anybody would know. This week in the legal world, at least in the world I inhabit, it sure has been all Tyler Robinson all the time. You've been following it, I take it?

**Gary Smith** (2:30)
Absolutely. The Charlie Kirk shooter, for those who may not recognize that name.

**Mark Geragos** (2:35)
Right. Do you have his, I think there's a little clip or video clip that I would love to play if you've got it in.

**Gary Smith** (2:43)
Yeah. Hold on one second. I've got to share the sound as well, but you're talking about the interview with his reported partner slash roommate?

**Mark Geragos** (2:52)
Correct.

**Gary Smith** (2:52)
Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Okay. My name is Lance Twiggs.

**Matt Murphy** (2:58)
Do you know Tyler Robinson?

**Gary Smith** (3:00)
Yes, I do.

**Matt Murphy** (3:01)
Yeah, I do.

**Gary Smith** (3:03)
This is the same Tyler Robinson that's been charged with the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

**Mark Geragos** (3:06)
Yes.

**Gary Smith** (3:07)
Before we go on, I realize my mic was muted at the outset.

**Matt Murphy** (3:10)
Was yours on?

**Gary Smith** (3:11)
Your mic was on.

**Mark Geragos** (3:11)
Again, I place you under oath.

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Just to make a record, I'm going to do it again.

**Matt Murphy** (3:17)
You just always swear that the evidence you shall give in this issue shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Sorry about that interruption.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:27)
All right.

**Matt Murphy** (3:27)
So you said when you first met, you were roommates?

**Gary Smith** (3:31)
Oh, yeah.

**Matt Murphy** (3:31)
Okay.

**Gary Smith** (3:32)
And then at some point, your relationship progressed to something more than just roommates, right? When was that?

**Mark Geragos** (3:42)
Yeah. What was that? Had you noticed that when you first met Matt?

**Gary Smith** (3:48)
Yeah. I had not seen that clip before you sent it to me. I did watch it before we started recording, but I've never heard any reference to anyone named Matt, so I'm not really sure what that is. I believe I seem to remember that Lance Twiggs has gone by a variety of names, and there's been some confusion and reporting over that, but I haven't heard anyone refer to Tyler Robinson as anything but Tyler before this.