**Ben** (0:00)
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**Emil** (0:30)
Breach of contract, trade secret theft. So this Chief Hardware Officer, Teng Teng, asked job candidates to bring in Apple components.
**Ben** (0:39)
He was calling it show and tell.
**Emil** (0:40)
Yeah. He said bring them in for show and tell.
**Ben** (0:42)
Let me see what you're working on.
**Emil** (0:43)
Yeah, let's see what you're working on.
So cool. It's just like so many super confidential stuff that we normies don't even know about, like secret projects that may never get announced. Part of the reason why this all happened is because these people were so stupid and so brazen.
**Ben** (1:00)
That's what I can't...
**Emil** (1:01)
They're communicating on Apple hardware, within Apple's walls, and all this stuff is logged.
**Ben** (1:09)
Yeah, we have the latest prototype for the...
**Emil** (1:12)
Some Chinese guy leaked it.
**Ben** (1:14)
Because Steve Jobs is dead.
**Emil** (1:15)
If there were any leaks, he made it like his focus. Find the leak and murder that person.
**Ben** (1:21)
You think they need to chop someone's head off at Apple?
**Emil** (1:23)
That's what they used to do. That's what Steve Jobs used to do.
**Ben** (1:26)
I do hope the new CEO of Apple is taking a lesson from Ben's anecdote here.
**Emil** (1:31)
Which is what, kill them?
**Ben** (1:32)
You gotta take him down to the cafeteria, get him on his knees.
**Emil** (1:37)
Shoot him in the back of the head. Yeah.
What is going on, you guys? Everybody, hello. My name Ben, not Emil. What's going on? Today, we're gonna tell you what's going on.
**Ben** (2:12)
We're gonna tell you all about what's going on. Please forgive us if this episode is edited together weird. There's gonna be probably a lot of cuts. We did something before we started recording called the hashtag lettuce challenge, and we are squirting.
We encourage you all to take the hashtag lettuce challenge.
**Emil** (2:31)
Yeah, I'm dying over here, man. Coffee was a bad idea to go with that lettuce.
**Ben** (2:35)
Also, crazy time to have a diarrhea bug. It's like 95 degrees all across the entire country. Everyone's just sweating it out in there.
**Emil** (2:42)
Couldn't be me, man. I'm doing fine. I'm sailing. Anyway, this week we're talking about Apple is suing OpenAI. Meta's got a new model. Not that type of model, you pervert. Not like a clothing model. Not that that would make you a pervert.
AI, a new AI model, and they're getting sued for over a trillion dollars. Plus, ding-dong, the Queen is dead. Lindsey Graham.
We salute him. We will talk about that later. But first, hey, remember to go to benandemilshow.com like last week or two weeks ago, we watched Independence Day and I took an edible and it was chaotic and very fun.
**Ben** (3:19)
Very fun.
**Emil** (3:19)
Very fun. Also remember creditcardlist.com.
The Chase Sapphire sign up bonus is currently up to 100,000 points that won't last very long.
**Ben** (3:29)
And we went in on the back end. If you're a butt nugget, you can't access it.
**Emil** (3:32)
Yeah, butt nuggets can't get it.
And also we are going to make a video on how to redeem points. We're going to do a whole like a little mini series on credit cards because you little freaks have been asking and we're going to do that.
**Ben** (3:46)
I guess that is a good point. If you're not, if you don't know how to use them, you're kind of just like, what the hell's going on here?
**Emil** (3:51)
I mean, a friend of mine, literally before I left today, my friend who's very, very one of the smartest people I know, the daughter of two doctors, just a genius, she didn't know anything about the credit card game. And she goes, I'm about to buy a mattress for $3,000. What kind of card should I get? And I was like, oh.
**Ben** (4:09)
Well, the thing that really drives me nuts is that websites, Amazon is a great example, will be able to read how many, if you enter your card on there and it's saved, they can read, oh, you have this many Amex points.
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