BAES 159: Mr. Wonderful & The TRUTH About Data Centers artwork

BAES 159: Mr. Wonderful & The TRUTH About Data Centers

The Ben and Emil Show

July 2, 2026

How much power and water do data centers actually consume? Plus, Kevin O'Leary has angered the entire state of Utah. But why? Surely it's not because he tried to spoil them with kisses?
Speakers: Emil, Ben, Spencer Cox, Cheryl Shadden, Kevin O'Leary, Tucker Carlson, Ryan Reynolds
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**Emil** (0:30)
So Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful. More like Mr. Isn't it wonderful that your wife didn't face any consequences for killing those two people?
He wants to bring a data center project to the state of Utah. And it's called the Stratos Project. And for some reason, he's also calling it...

**Ben** (0:44)
No, they recently renamed it......Wonder Valley.

**Emil** (0:47)
But this thing is massive.
40,000 acres massive. It's huge, and it's going to take a ton of power capacity. They're saying 9 gigawatts.

**Ben** (0:59)
Which is twice as much power as the entire state of Utah currently consumes.

**Emil** (1:03)
I mean, he's just going out there and having his dick kicked in on every news show. Like going on Tucker Carlson and just looking like a fool.
You can do all the like, the numbers aren't what they seem. You're misunderstanding the water usage of data centers. All you want. But I think when your governor is asking for the entire state to pray for more water, Weekend of Prayer. Maybe a 40,000 acre mega data center is not going to go over well with people. That's the thing. I do feel like a lot of these people are digging their own graves.

**Ben** (1:35)
We're like, honestly, if you weren't just so annoying on TV, she just come out as autistic and then he's got to get out of the jail free. I think I'm autistic. And so and I got the little puzzle.
Got you, bitch. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's my Jeff Goldblum impression.

**Emil** (2:19)
Do it.

**Ben** (2:20)
Wow. What is going on, ladies and gentlemen? If you are hearing our voices or seeing our faces, it can only mean one thing, and that's that you want to know what's going on, and you came to the right place. I am Ben.

**Emil** (2:31)
I'm Emil.

**Ben** (2:32)
Yeah, and this week, we're talking about the data centers, or as Emil calls them, data centers, which makes me go, what about the mama centers? Every time. Every time.

**Emil** (2:44)
It just proves we've got a long way to go to smashing the patriarchy.

**Ben** (2:47)
The patriarchy?

**Emil** (2:48)
I corrected it myself. You don't get to do it when you correct yourself.

**Ben** (2:52)
Yeah, you're right.

**Spencer Cox** (2:54)
Yeah, that's true.

**Ben** (2:55)
Yeah, we're going to be talking all about the data centers and why you're probably actually wrong when you make those jokes about the water consumption.

**Emil** (3:02)
But you're actually kind of right.

**Ben** (3:04)
But you are kind of right.

**Emil** (3:05)
We'll get into it.

**Ben** (3:06)
It's a whole big thing, and we learned so that you don't have to learn. And isn't that just the way the world is these days? We are your ChatGPT. We are your Claude. And that's actually really...
What does Claude always say? I'm glad you noticed. Thank you for pointing that out.

**Emil** (3:23)
Honestly, you're not just a researcher.

**Ben** (3:25)
You're a student.

**Emil** (3:26)
Student.

**Ben** (3:26)
Yeah.

**Emil** (3:27)
You're not just a student. You're a researcher.

**Ben** (3:28)
God dang, man. I hate that cadence that they do.

**Emil** (3:31)
It really is so grating.

**Ben** (3:33)
And Kevin O'Leary, what did he, poop and pee his pants on TV?

**Emil** (3:37)
Well, obviously, the data center things have been going on for a while, but Kevin O'Leary, it's almost the Streisand effect thing. You know the Streisand effect?

**Ben** (3:47)
Yeah, Barbara Streisand. It's the effect she has on all of us when we see her on screen.

**Emil** (3:51)
No, I think it's-

**Ben** (3:52)
Touching.

**Emil** (3:53)
I forget exactly what it was, but she brought up some thing that no one was even paying attention to and then it made it so much worse.

**Ben** (3:59)
Oh, yeah. Oh, she was talking about her house, her address. She said, people know where I live. And then they were like, no, no, we don't. And then she said, yeah, I live right here. And now everybody, I think so.

**Emil** (4:08)
I don't know what it was.

**Ben** (4:09)
I believe it was. Streisand effect.

**Emil** (4:11)
Google the Streisand effect. That is not what it was.

**Ben** (4:13)
Streisand effect.

**Emil** (4:14)
I thought it was like a like, I thought she was trying to move her house to the origin story.

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