At-One-Ment

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Dan McClellan (0:57)

They're doing that with AI now.

Dan Beecher (0:58)

I know.

Dan McClellan (0:59)

They're using a lot of the Gen Z slang and everything, so I think it's so funny when they've got Moses, he's like, the sea has been split, and people are like, oh! And he's like, I told y'all, trust the process. And I was like, oh my gosh.

Dan Beecher (1:15)

Jesus has mad TikTok riz, y'all.

Dan McClellan (1:18)

We are in the dentist's timeline. Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

Dan Beecher (1:28)

And I'm Dan Beecher.

Dan McClellan (1:29)

And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same. How are things today, Dan?

Dan Beecher (1:44)

Rocking and rolling, just out here, making the world a groovy place.

Dan McClellan (1:51)

And the construction going on next door to you has settled for the evening.

Dan Beecher (1:54)

Has settled for the evening, yes.

Dan McClellan (1:56)

They've been bedded down for the night.

Dan Beecher (1:58)

You and I have been forced to push our recordings to evening, even though you prefer afternoon, because for the foreseeable future, there is building.

Dan McClellan (2:09)

They're building a spaceship right next to you, or something like that. How high is it reaching? You've got the foundation has been poured already.

Dan Beecher (2:19)

Yeah.

Dan McClellan (2:19)

I see. Okay.

Dan Beecher (2:21)

Well, they're still in process of pouring. So.

Dan McClellan (2:24)

Oh, okay.

Dan Beecher (2:25)

Yeah. It's a fascinating thing to watch. It's one of my favorite shows. I've been fascinated to see how the construction of a six or seven story apartment building starts.

Dan McClellan (2:43)

And then stalls.

Dan Beecher (2:45)

It's also very loud and whatever. Anyway. Hey, let's do a show. Today, one of the things that we're going to talk about. First, we're going to do a What's That? And this week's What's That is a Biggin. It's the granddaddy of Christian theology. We're going to talk about atonement.

Dan McClellan (3:06)

At one meant for the initiated.

Dan Beecher (3:09)

We'll get into that. We'll get into that because there's a, I had a whole thing. And then towards the end of the show, we're going to talk about translation, and we're going to talk specifically about what it is. Like, what goes into it? Why is it, what's the process of translating a scripture?

Dan McClellan (3:31)

Yeah.

Dan Beecher (3:32)

Because it's a, it's a-

Dan McClellan (3:34)

Or many scriptures.

Dan Beecher (3:35)

Or all the scriptures. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. So we'll get to that in the latter half of the show. But first, what's that? Here's the thing. As you said, you said at one meant. Now I have looked at the word atonement and seen at one meant and thought, that's a funny joke. At one meant. And then I've heard, I've also heard people say, it means at one meant. And I thought, okay, they're just dumb. And then today, as I'm prepping for this show, I look it up, and the etymology is that it's at one meant. Like that's the actual etymology of the word. And now I'm furious.

Dan McClellan (4:19)

Yeah, that one was a little on the nose. But yeah, the idea is this, the idea of reconciliation, satisfaction, reparation of a breach or an injury or something like that, reconciliation meaning to re-sit down with.

So yeah, the idea of atonement is that bringing back together and repairing of that breach. So yeah, I always, when, you know, we come from the same religious tradition, wherein that is a popular way to explain atonement. And I too, when I first started hearing that, was like, yeah, that's not true.